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R’s shilling hard for stop and frisk

I'll just add that "Terry Stops" are legal when done according to the law according to SCOTUS- and it's a highly effective technique for finding illegal guns, drugs, and other contraband.
 
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I'll just add that "Terry Stops" are legal when done according to the law according to SCOTUS- and it's a highly effective technique for finding illegal guns, drugs, and other contraband.
Fuck that. Unconstitutional as fuck

Supreme Court said slavery was legal and women can vote. Doesn’t mean their right
 
I'll just add that "Terry Stops" are legal when done according to the law according to SCOTUS- and it's a highly effective technique for finding illegal guns, drugs, and other contraband.
Or you can just actually punish criminals and not go after the good guys when they take out the trash in the neighborhood.
 
Fuck that. Unconstitutional as fuck

Supreme Court said slavery was legal and women can vote. Doesn’t mean their right
If we Americans just keep playing by the DEMS' rules forever- we'll never take our republic back. Fuck that... FUCK the DEMS' current border policies & rules, fuck the DEMS' current rules & policies on voting & elections, FUCK the DEMS' current rules & policies on allowing TRANNIES & other mentally ill- to buy guns...

The Terry Stop law doesn't allow for and SCOTUS doesn't either, nor does the spirit of it, cover "a guy just taking out his trash".
 
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Or you can just actually punish criminals and not go after the good guys when they take out the trash in the neighborhood.
Or you can just read the part where I said "Terry Stops... when done according to the Law"... By ignoring that part, the part SCOTUS actually enforced on NY City- you argue a straw man.
 
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I'll just add that "Terry Stops" are legal when done according to the law according to SCOTUS- and it's a highly effective technique for finding illegal guns, drugs, and other contraband.
Or as a pretext for civil asset forfeiture.
Either the 4th amendment means what it says or it doesn't. Stop and frisk is unconstitutional and the only ones that back it are pigs tyrants and bootlickers
 
Or you can just read the part where I said "Terry Stops... when done according to the Law"... By ignoring that part, the part SCOTUS actually enforced on NY City- you argue a straw man.
At this point, i dont want to leave anything up to those officers to determine if they have reasonable suspicion.... while I like the production of stop and frisk, the police have shown time and again that they are fine with lying and bending the rules so I'm not with them having ANY more authority to do ANYTHING. Let's just enforce our laws and stop letting criminals: loose, into the country by the millions, have welfare, ect.... and if the cops wouldn't go arrest me for kicking the crap out of the thief down the street, it wouldn't be an issue to begin with.
 
Or as a pretext for civil asset forfeiture.
Either the 4th amendment means what it says or it doesn't. Stop and frisk is unconstitutional and the only ones that back it are pigs tyrants and bootlickers

Don't deflect to a different law- stick to the topic of discussion- Terry Stops. Only the mentally ill & true anarchists think all cops are bad, think all laws are bad, think in rigid, absolutist terms.

Me, I judge things based on facts & objectivity, I judge people by their actions... For instance, when I say dems, I define them by who they vote for and not what their party registration might be, and RINOs by what they vote for.

I think it's pretty clear you're so pro anarchy and "anti- Rule of Law" that you're stuck in a mode of thinking that won't allow you to think objectively.

Sure there are way too many laws, regs, etc., but that doesn't mean the answer is anarchy!

I'm done here- have fun with your anarchistic rants.
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At this point, i dont want to leave anything up to those officers to determine if they have reasonable suspicion.... while I like the production of stop and frisk, the MANY but NOT ALL police have shown time and again that they are fine with lying and bending the rules so I'm not with them having ANY more authority to do ANYTHING. Let's just enforce our laws and stop letting criminals: loose, into the country by the millions, have welfare, ect.... and if the cops wouldn't go arrest me for kicking the crap out of the thief down the street, it wouldn't be an issue to begin with.
FIFY
There is much we agree on.
I'm out.
 
Don't deflect to a different law- stick to the topic of discussion- Terry Stops. Only the mentally ill & true anarchists think all cops are bad, think all laws are bad, think in rigid, absolutist terms.

Me, I judge things based on facts & objectivity, I judge people by their actions... For instance, when I say dems, I define them by who they vote for and not what their party registration might be, and RINOs by what they vote for.

I think it's pretty clear you're so pro anarchy and "anti- Rule of Law" that you're stuck in a mode of thinking that won't allow you to think objectively.

Sure there are way too many laws, regs, etc., but that doesn't mean the answer is anarchy!

I'm done here- have fun with your anarchistic rants.
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I think you must be blind
 
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Republicans do not have a vision or a mission to put forward with a coordinated agenda. In fighting and bickering. With that we will get pedo Joe. Really unfortunate that we can’t get together and have a coordinated agenda that people can believe in, a message of hope. No, we tear down our side and talk stupid shot rather than a way that can benefit all and all having a buy in and personal stake in the success of this country. Shit like this does nothing but help the left.
 
anarchy and "anti- Rule of Law"

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Fuck yeah, conservatives hate cops, I'm all for it. The sooner we shame our fellow conservatives into leaving law enforcement and get the socialists fill the vacuum, the sooner we can get the full and complete police state we're all dying to have as an enemy.

Let's get this fucking show on the road, I'm not getting any younger.
 
Republicans do not have a vision or a mission to put forward with a coordinated agenda. In fighting and bickering. With that we will get pedo Joe. Really unfortunate that we can’t get together and have a coordinated agenda that people can believe in, a message of hope. No, we tear down our side and talk stupid shot rather than a way that can benefit all and all having a buy in and personal stake in the success of this country. Shit like this does nothing but help the left.
Ok ding Dong

They stole 2 elections so far.

Has nothing to do with any of that bs you said. Sounds like a paid or ideological troll

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Here is his entire speech.



How much experience do you have in and around New Orleans, especially the amount of violent crime that goes on there? Just curious?

Honeymooned in New Orleans - been there twice since .
Rampant crime there worse every year .
The answer to crime being taking away rights is exactly the anti gun play book. And police seem to love it .
How about a trade - I propose if state and local and federal Gestapo give up civil asset forfeiture AND qualified immunity AND government immunity we can talk about stop and frisk.

And I did listen to the entire speech though right off the top when he repeatedly said the 4th amendment allows illegal detainment and searches of one’s person and property my “fuck you you fucking liar” went to 100
 
Honeymooned in New Orleans - been there twice since .
Rampant crime there worse every year .
The answer to crime being taking away rights is exactly the anti gun play book. And police seem to love it .
How about a trade - I propose if state and local and federal Gestapo give up civil asset forfeiture AND qualified immunity AND government immunity we can talk about stop and frisk.

And I did listen to the entire speech though right off the top when he repeatedly said the 4th amendment allows illegal detainment and searches of one’s person and property my “fuck you you fucking liar” went to 100
So 3 times in your entire life. My Step Mother has been robbed at gun point in New Orleans more times than you have visited the city.

I don't think you understand just how fucked it is.

Your response is a space cadet line of bullshit. There is a reason people there want a more aggressive law enforcement approach.
 
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Just like to add, she's had it happen enough time she said she could recognize the one who wasn't comfortable and shaking... the others were cool and calm like it was just another day... the one shaking with anxiety is the one that really scared her.
 
Republicans do not have a vision or a mission to put forward with a coordinated agenda. In fighting and bickering. With that we will get pedo Joe. Really unfortunate that we can’t get together and have a coordinated agenda that people can believe in, a message of hope. No, we tear down our side and talk stupid shot rather than a way that can benefit all and all having a buy in and personal stake in the success of this country. Shit like this does nothing but help the left.
quite honestly, I'd rather have the bickering and infighting over the lockstep-marching authoritarian crap the left pulls. At least the right know where each other stand on issues and agree to put aside differences to promote a mutually agreeable agenda.

The left? I don't see as much thinking and more reacting emotionally. That's why you always see them pushing a narrative when tragedies occur. Gotta strike when the emitions are high so you can get as many people reacting as you can

...kind of like some here

[segue] Oh, and we're repeating history with the gun control thing. Remember that it took the prohibitionists appx 100 years to get that alcohol ban in place. They used the same tactics back then too. [/segue]

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So 3 times in your entire life. My Step Mother has been robbed at gun point in New Orleans more times than you have visited the city.

I don't think you understand just how fucked it is.

Your response is a space cadet line of bullshit. There is a reason people there want a more aggressive law enforcement approach.
You must be fucking retired - crime in a ghetto city and that means everyone nation wide should lose rights - you’re now on ignore . Shameful that we share oxygen with you.

How about by your mother in law or whatever the Fuck a gun and a dog.
How about help her form a neighborhood vigilance committee?

Crime in a shit hole means suspend rights for everyone? Just want to be sure I’m understanding your argument.
Space cadet - is that what you called me? Okay boomer - help your people move from the shit hole and be quiet the adults are talking moron
 
You must be fucking retired - crime in a ghetto city and that means everyone nation wide should lose rights - you’re now on ignore . Shameful that we share oxygen with you.

How about by your mother in law or whatever the Fuck a gun and a dog.
How about help her form a neighborhood vigilance committee?

Crime in a shit hole means suspend rights for everyone? Just want to be sure I’m understanding your argument.
Space cadet - is that what you called me? Okay boomer - help your people move from the shit hole and be quiet the adults are talking moron
You are not an adult.

You are a winey child that doesn't have a clue what it takes to deal with the rip rap in the city. A neighbor hood watch.... You live in Lala land. I was born in NOLA... you have zero clue. They are predators and should be treated as such.

You don't know shit about me.

And no... You don't understand my argument, I never said I agreed with what Kenndy said. I just said you don't understand the problem. My solution would be a hell of alot more then a pat down!!!
 
No smart one. Paid troll, no. Just an observer that is watching the republicans get their asses handed to them. I guess you think the republic are doing a bang up job?
 
Senator Kennedy and MILF DOTS are correct. Don't blame Kennedy for echoing the law. Must have reasonable suspicion to stop and frisk. It's been that way since 1968, Terry vs. Ohio. Was taught that in POST academy in 1996. Nothing new.
 
MILF DOTS is correct. Must have reasonable suspicion to stop and frisk. It's been that way since 1968, Terry vs. Ohio. Was taught that in POST academy in 1996. Nothing new.
As it stands now since the legal framework was made in 1968.
This is a US senator pushing a bill for national stop and frisk.
The same hero’s who stood around and watched cities burn and children die would now be able to go hands on for any reason. And it’s not about fighting crime. It’s fine more loose pocket change to CAF.
 
As it stands now since the legal framework was made in 1968.
This is a US senator pushing a bill for national stop and frisk.
The same hero’s who stood around and watched cities burn and children die would now be able to go hands on for any reason. And it’s not about fighting crime. It’s fine more loose pocket change to CAF.
That's not true. He's talking specifically, about New Orleans, because the crime is so bad. He's suggesting NOPD stop and frisk more often. We already have a national search and frisk, if there is reasonable suspicion. Kennedy was against the riots and city burns. He's one senator. He's not the Commander in Chief. I'm not saying stop and frisk is not abused. Often, it is.