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PortaJohn

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Pisses me off so much I made it it’s own post.

No one but ourselves to blame.
A question to ponder..
Let's say that it's a couple years ago and let's say that a very large group of citizens showed up to the capital to lodge their complaints during a session. They have just passed new legislation to shut down the economy and barbarian rules that are anti constitutional but for the protection of the populace.
The State Police are called in to protect the scum inside. Would you have your back to the capital building with your barrel towards the people or the opposite?

PM if you want.
 
A question to ponder..
Let's say that it's a couple years ago and let's say that a very large group of citizens showed up to the capital to lodge their complaints during a session. They have just passed new legislation to shut down the economy and barbarian rules that are anti constitutional but for the protection of the populace.
The State Police are called in to protect the scum inside. Would you have your back to the capital building with your barrel towards the people or the opposite?

PM if you want.
It’s the question I tell my still working former co-workers that they should answer right now.

I drew the line at my personal rights.

My belief is that if your own rights could be surrendered you would give two shits about anyone else’s. If you maintained your rights you are a believer in others rights.

I’ve made it known that it’s highly likely if I were Re-instated most likely they will ask me to do something that just gets me fired again.

There is a mechanism to notify and request accommodation when given an unlawful order.

We all filed one.

And I think they filed them in a shit can as there has never been a response to any of it.

I’ve been following a big group of mil guys that made the same decisions.

Not likely that anyone getting on their knees the first time won’t require the same in having the public get on their knees.

I’ve said to them I was a coward getting out when I did because the pain I have taken has been financial and psychological.

In the situation you describe what is going to happen to the resistor? The pain will be physical.

I like the thought that the first guy that resists is not the guy that starts the Revolution. He can be dismissed as crazy.

The real guy that starts the Revolution is the second guy that sees the first crushed and decides to follow him anyway.
 
It’s the question I tell my still working former co-workers that they should answer right now.

I drew the line at my personal rights.

My belief is that if your own rights could be surrendered you would give two shits about anyone else’s. If you maintained your rights you are a believer in others rights.

I’ve made it known that it’s highly likely if I were Re-instated most likely they will ask me to do something that just gets me fired again.

There is a mechanism to notify and request accommodation when given an unlawful order.

We all filed one.

And I think they filed them in a shit can as there has never been a response to any of it.

I’ve been following a big group of mil guys that made the same decisions.

Not likely that anyone getting on their knees the first time won’t require the same in having the public get on their knees.

I’ve said to them I was a coward getting out when I did because the pain I have taken has been financial and psychological.

In the situation you describe what is going to happen to the resistor? The pain will be physical.

I like the thought that the first guy that resists is not the guy that starts the Revolution. He can be dismissed as crazy.

The real guy that starts the Revolution is the second guy that sees the first crushed and decides to follow him anyway.
Your rights hadn't been violated at that point. You filed the paperwork and expected to keep your job with some concessions to wear a mask and whatever. Meanwhile people's businesses were shut down, along with their ability to pay their bills and survive. Others with rental properties were told tuff shit. Your renters don't have to pay and you can not evict them. Along with other tyrannical orders.
So you are saying that you would have walked away from your pension and grabbed a bag of feathers and joined them?
I know this sounds personal but I am trying to get to the "Blame" thing you stated. And like you said about the first guy getting crushed. Each and everyone of your fellow officers swore an oath to the constitution. Yet they crushed the people that challenged the unconstitutional tyrants instead of joining the people. The people's fight was with the tyrant not the "just doing my job" clan. When/if the people realize that the tyrant is powerless without his enforcement. The tyrant's enforcer is going to have a bad time.
It's a rather unique dichotomy the police have.
 
Your rights hadn't been violated at that point. You filed the paperwork and expected to keep your job with some concessions to wear a mask and whatever. Meanwhile people's businesses were shut down, along with their ability to pay their bills and survive. Others with rental properties were told tuff shit. Your renters don't have to pay and you can not evict them. Along with other tyrannical orders.
So you are saying that you would have walked away from your pension and grabbed a bag of feathers and joined them?
I know this sounds personal but I am trying to get to the "Blame" thing you stated. And like you said about the first guy getting crushed. Each and everyone of your fellow officers swore an oath to the constitution. Yet they crushed the people that challenged the unconstitutional tyrants instead of joining the people. The people's fight was with the tyrant not the "just doing my job" clan. When/if the people realize that the tyrant is powerless without his enforcement. The tyrant's enforcer is going to have a bad time.
It's a rather unique dichotomy the police have.
Interesting.

Just saw a post elsewhere.

Months ago I shitposted on a former co-workers linked in about the shortage of police officers.

I couldn’t help but troll him with “well perhaps they shouldn’t have been fired for refusing the shot”

Some one just necro posted it and I got a notification.

She is saying every child should be trained as a police officer and the world would be a better place.

How against everything that is America but I decided to shit post her along the lines of how you raise good kids….


United States Airforce/District Manager circulation media news/ Direct support person/Chef/Dietary director
1h

Every kid in the nation should be trained to be a police officer teach them right




Phil McLaine
Dishonorably Discharged Massachusetts State Trooper (Refused a Mandated Shot)
7m

That is the responsibility of the parents.

As an FTO I worked with boots that the Academy was only for teaching them things specific to their career. Everything important had been provided by their parents.

In this climate I advocate parents continue to instill values in their children but have them serve their community outside of government.

When the government is deserving of the trust to give your children to it I may reconsider.

This coming from a parent that served and would have been proud to see a child follow but couldn’t be more against that now.

These people served. Service is sacrifice but not self sacrifice of your soul…..https://youtu.be/F08I2RsYGEk?si=tvCiBbTIemmvdWbu
 
Interesting.

Just saw a post elsewhere.

Months ago I shitposted on a former co-workers linked in about the shortage of police officers.

I couldn’t help but troll him with “well perhaps they shouldn’t have been fired for refusing the shot”

Some one just necro posted it and I got a notification.

She is saying every child should be trained as a police officer and the world would be a better place.

How against everything that is America but I decided to shit post her along the lines of how you raise good kids….


United States Airforce/District Manager circulation media news/ Direct support person/Chef/Dietary director
1h

Every kid in the nation should be trained to be a police officer teach them right




Phil McLaine
Dishonorably Discharged Massachusetts State Trooper (Refused a Mandated Shot)
7m

That is the responsibility of the parents.

As an FTO I worked with boots that the Academy was only for teaching them things specific to their career. Everything important had been provided by their parents.

In this climate I advocate parents continue to instill values in their children but have them serve their community outside of government.

When the government is deserving of the trust to give your children to it I may reconsider.

This coming from a parent that served and would have been proud to see a child follow but couldn’t be more against that now.

These people served. Service is sacrifice but not self sacrifice of your soul…..https://youtu.be/F08I2RsYGEk?si=tvCiBbTIemmvdWbu
What she meant was every parent should be teaching their children firearms proficiency and safe handling so they can be police. A child brought up with firearms and taught about the responsibility that goes with that are always good kids. I'd rather have a teenager in the woods with a gun hunting than hanging out on the conner with the rest of the deadbeats looking for trouble. They will find it for certain.
 
Blame for what?
Voting for the lesser of two evils for over 150 years?
Allowing women to vote?
Allowing non stake holders to vote?
Allowing the system to be perverted from within?
Not burning every lawyer like a witch?
Why did you stop?
 
The point was that the bullshit sanctions aren't working. And the value of the dollar is worthless.
Debating on who's more communist at this point is a waste of time.

Ah, yes, in that respect sanctions are as effective as a limp noodle.

Mine was more of a question about the quality and content of his observation.

A [subjective] week's worth of groceries is ~$104 US in Rusky compared to ~$??? US in the actual US. Also, compared to what median income in $ US?

Communism fucking sucks for everybody but the oligarchy/dictator no fucking doubt.
 
Ah, yes, in that respect sanctions are as effective as a limp noodle.

Mine was more of a question about the quality and content of his observation.

A [subjective] week's worth of groceries is ~$104 US in Rusky compared to ~$??? US in the actual US. Also, compared to what median income in $ US?

Communism fucking sucks for everybody but the oligarchy/dictator no fucking doubt.
Median income after taxes (roughly 50%)? And after the 30% inflation since they installed a potato in our form of oligarchy?
 
Ah, yes, in that respect sanctions are as effective as a limp noodle.

Mine was more of a question about the quality and content of his observation.

A [subjective] week's worth of groceries is ~$104 US in Rusky compared to ~$??? US in the actual US. Also, compared to what median income in $ US?

Communism fucking sucks for everybody but the oligarchy/dictator no fucking doubt.
the point is that now there is NO difference between the US and russia. said it before here but there never really was. common knowledge to many that communism sucks for the average people. capitalism has big problems but is the only economic systems that supports individual liberty. that has been taken away everywhere on the planet. we are now in a system that comes closer every day to the old soviet union.
tucker's point IMHO is that there is no excuse for our eroding quality of life and that we are falling into a worse position vis a vis russia. not yet but the plans to make that happen are in place and progressing rapidly.
 
the point is that now there is NO difference between the US and russia. said it before here but there never really was. common knowledge to many that communism sucks for the average people. capitalism has big problems but is the only economic systems that supports individual liberty. that has been taken away everywhere on the planet. we are now in a system that comes closer every day to the old soviet union.
tucker's point IMHO is that there is no excuse for our eroding quality of life and that we are falling into a worse position vis a vis russia. not yet but the plans to make that happen are in place and progressing rapidly.
Yeah, I got focused on the little picture when he started talking about grocery prices.

Russia has proven over and over again how little impact political saber rattling and market manipulation impacts an independent country. All that shit only works on backwater countries anymore.

This is the bear stirring, we liberated and empowered the dragon and we *think* we made a lapdog out of the elephant but those bitches be cra-cra.
 
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