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Are we headed towards a shooting war in the US?

Do you believe w the US will have an internal shooting war between liberals and conservatives?

  • Yes,Seattle etal radical factions will graduate from rocks & Molotovs to mass murder / assassination

    Votes: 14 7.8%
  • Likely, DOJ encourages by turning a blind to threats of arson & mass murder

    Votes: 29 16.1%
  • Possible, the US is headed into a hot summer where libs setup arsons, ambushes & firefights

    Votes: 24 13.3%
  • Probably not, most of the vitriol and politics are posturing

    Votes: 41 22.8%
  • Won’t happen, the news isn’t reality and most Americans are indifferent

    Votes: 72 40.0%

  • Total voters
    180
Putting 2 and 2 together here.
Has everyone heard the gunfire from the video ?
We have this scrawny assed kid, the alleged shooter.
The fire was so fast I wondered if it was a bump stock or one of those recently illegalized dual action triggers (forget the exact name of them).
Recoil, even if 5.56 had to play a factor and also reloading.
Not going to post my idea right now about this.
Anyone want to give any unbiased thoughts on the stuff I just posted?
He killed what...8 I think ?
Wounded "dozens" is the current stat....don't know an exact number.
Does anyone see where I'm going with this ?
Not sure, but it was erratic enough to sound like a 120# person slapping a trigger. Low body count because he couldn’t aim.
 
I believe it will happen, everything is allowed now, if we have Palestine supporters here...Don't see why the opposition won't fight back one day and is a slippery slope from there
 
ASGH... we in the shooting sports community, supposedly the most patriotic Americans in existence, can't even unite against Chinese oem manufacturers of electro-optics, lights, and lasers!
 
Why don't we all just do our lives and wait for someone to start shooting at us?

By definition we would then be in a shooting war and wouldn't have to ask this kind of question.
In 1938, they said the same thing. All they got were free showers.
 
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I guess Alex Jones said NY putting the national guard in the subway is just to normalize the optics of having the military among civilians, and it's the start of marshall law! It's uncanny how many of his "theories" actually come to fruition...
 
I guess Alex Jones said NY putting the national guard in the subway is just to normalize the optics of having the military among civilians, and it's the start of marshall law! It's uncanny how many of his "theories" actually come to fruition...
Well then, that would be the day. People always ask how you know, that’s one way I suppose.
 
There will be open civil conflict with non citizens eventually. It's already brewing with the amount of violence they are bringing here. And there's millions and counting all over the country.
I do know of 3-4 abandoned deep wells, but even those wouldn't be enough for all "Dinner reservations"
If only I knew where the train station was...
 
ASGH... we in the shooting sports community, supposedly the most patriotic Americans in existence, can't even unite against Chinese oem manufacturers of electro-optics, lights, and lasers!
China Russia etc is less of a threat to any American versus the oligarchy / police / etc


That same group made us buy foreign thermal and lasers. When they either straight up won’t sell to us , or make it extremely expensive due to lack of supply or to match crooked gov contracts



You don’t know what you don’t know
 
What we have today is either because of or regardless of the constitution. Either way its fucked just the same. Going back to the original framework wouldn’t be enough. We glorify and romanticize the constitution for some reason when we have never lived under anything that remotely resembles its intentions. The founders knew themselves that it was a flawed document and its implementation would lead to this behemoth we have today. Even the framework would need a major overhaul.
If women and non property owners were never allowed to vote.

None of the problems we have today would exist
 
When they either straight up won’t sell to us , or make it extremely expensive due to lack of supply or to match crooked gov contracts
Yet gift the best stuff as a going away present to our enemy, after 20+ years.

Nothing like projecting the American lives lost, maimed, or totally destroyed, including family's thereof, don't mean shit. Yet they wonder why they can't recruit?
 
Yet gift the best stuff as a going away present to our enemy, after 20+ years.

Nothing like projecting the American lives lost, maimed, or totally destroyed, including family's thereof, don't mean shit. Yet they wonder why they can't recruit?
All on purpose

Along with leaving the biometric scanners there so the snitches / terps / etc could be ID and tortured to death at best


All about weakening america and making sure anyone with a brain doesn’t help us in future democracy missions
 
It's important to always remember, the lands where these invaders are coming from are almost all embroiled in incredible day to day violence, often to just survive. This is their "normal", and they are bringing it to America. Prisons have been emptied, cartel affiliated gang members, Somali's, Congo, a great many of them muslims, who have no love for America and Christianity. The list is endless. They have no knowledge of our laws, nor do many of them care. They come from countries where a man's wealth is measured by how much tin he has for a roof.

The soft underbelly of America is prime pickings for these predators.
 
The soft underbelly of America is prime pickings for these predators.
More than most know of, let alone even suspect. I foresee a keystone event, taking place much sooner than later.

A Izzy Oct 7 style event first kicks off with an AT&T and many other comms/news roasted. The general public and many sheep dog & rescue types are generally clueless for 12-24 hrs. With the total amount of broader crossovers, if just 1-2% are hell bent on their mission, it would make 9/11 just a single line in some sort of book of event's, by the hr.
We have to also remember this gov has planned, allowed & made this all possible. Be nice to know the op name, as most who have been down the road enough, can link op names to end goal and A/O most of the time.
 
Those in blue cities and suburbs are going to get a huge kick in the balls almost instantly. If you haven't prepared, you're in deep shit. Those few who can bug out to "free America" to stay with relatives have it somewhat better. To those who think they can throw everything in the car and have no destination other than the rural areas, you will find you are not welcome here.
Harsh reality, but true. We're capable of taking care of ours, but it ends there. We're not a refugee camp for those who didn't prepare.
 
Harsh reality, but true. We're capable of taking care of ours, but it ends there. We're not a refugee camp for those who didn't prepare.
Some A/Os (Citys/Towns/Countys) have SOP's in place for this very thing. If those displaced have verified kin/friends in the A/O, but if not,... they will welcome what transpires next.
 
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Some A/Os (Citys/Towns/Countys) have SOP's in place for this very thing. If those displaced have verified kin/friends in the A/O, but if not,... they will welcome what transpires next.

funny you mention that…..one of my good local buddies is in tight with a few local cops in out small suburb city. they told him that is the shtf here they would accept civilian help to block roads and assist them.

our PD department has changed since that convo went around but those cops are still on here. just a new younger crew now. not super excited about that but i’ve had interactions with a few and they seem ok.
 
Those in blue cities and suburbs are going to get a huge kick in the balls almost instantly. If you haven't prepared, you're in deep shit. Those few who can bug out to "free America" to stay with relatives have it somewhat better. To those who think they can throw everything in the car and have no destination other than the rural areas, you will find you are not welcome here.
Harsh reality, but true. We're capable of taking care of ours, but it ends there. We're not a refugee camp for those who didn't prepare.
Bought my very rural 6 acres of virgin hardwoods back in '15, took 18 months to pay it off. I have a 1000' deep well and a big enough generator to run it, plus a constant spring that runs through the bottom. I've been prepping my whole life. Need to unload some non essentials, and build a wood-smoke gasifier. We don't garden but have everything to do so stocked up, including an old Troy built horse tiller that's been 100% gone through, right down to new tires. I don't think anyone is ever 100% ready, I'd rate myself about 80% at best.
 
Bought my very rural 6 acres of virgin hardwoods back in '15, took 18 months to pay it off. I have a 1000' deep well and a big enough generator to run it, plus a constant spring that runs through the bottom. I've been prepping my whole life. Need to unload some non essentials, and build a wood-smoke gasifier. We don't garden but have everything to do so stocked up, including an old Troy built horse tiller that's been 100% gone through, right down to new tires. I don't think anyone is ever 100% ready, I'd rate myself about 80% at best.
You built a smoke house for the neighbors yet?
 
Random hikers for the smokehouse brings less attention.
Have to settle for a big green egg, I did build a retort kiln to make my own charcoal! I have a lot of 4 legged neighbors, since moving here, down in my bottom next to the stream I made a big mineral lick & feed corn. I have a tripod with an enclosed shooting house on a hill overlooking it all. Perfectly set to where the prevalent wind blows in my face and the morning sun rises directly behind me. And yet I never harvested one. I guess I'm saving them for when I need them. Everything doable with my crossbow, so as not to draw any attention to myself!!
 
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funny you mention that…..one of my good local buddies is in tight with a few local cops in out small suburb city. they told him that is the shtf here they would accept civilian help to block roads and assist them.

our PD department has changed since that convo went around but those cops are still on here. just a new younger crew now. not super excited about that but i’ve had interactions with a few and they seem ok.
That’s cute he is so certain the cops will be on the right side…..
 
That’s cute he is so certain the cops will be on the right side…..

not much different than the shitty unprepared civi’s that will be roaming the streets looking to loot you

i know what they look like. see them every day in the work commute traffic.
 
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seems to me that the death rate in blue cities will be > 80% in 1st 4-6 wks. and,with a pop > about 250k,they are all blue. police won't try and if they aren't part of the problem (a la katrina in N.O.) they will be rapidly overwhelmed. NG same. most won't answer the call or be a looter as well,or be overwhelmed. any injury or illness that can't be fixed with aspirin or a band aid will be lethal. they say that there is about 2 weeks supply of food in av city. i can assure you that the concept of triage is alien to US disease care and a 2 week supply like food is a max holding. what is on hand will be pissed away in the 1st 48hr. they have generators but likely won't have any more fuel access than anyone but maybe a few elites. if you are an old fuck like me,better lay in a supply of your most important meds. get a supply for as long as you plan to live. if > 60,not gonna be real long but whatever. don't expect your current medical to help with that. prob woke and won't want to help if you're white.
ammo,food,fluid of course but as many have said all over,a "team" with all on same page,having some helpful skills,knowledge or tools is really the only viable survival strategy.
 
All those crazy peppers are now having the last laugh.
Many laughed at us, but as things get crazier, we're the ones who prepared. When SHTF, I'd hate to be living near any large city or suburbs, especially in blue states.

The moment the crazies move out of the cities and into the rural areas, shit will get real for them in a hurry.
 
I guess Alex Jones said NY putting the national guard in the subway is just to normalize the optics of having the military among civilians, and it's the start of marshall law! It's uncanny how many of his "theories" actually come to fruition...
Interesting the increasing number of Army National Guard units deployed/deploying and who will not be in CONUS for November..........
 
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So, related…Anyone going to watch what will undoubtedly be a leftist trope, but I’m intrigued anyway…”Civil War” started today in theaters around here.

91% on rotten tomatoes, and my son wants to see it, so likely going out to see it tonight.

Trying to talk my wife into going too, but she’s resisting, LoL.
 
The majority of Americans are indifferent... However, the Congo has had multiple civil wars and rebel groups are currently fighting in eastern Congo, despite the fact less than 3% of Congolese are involved in combat/hostilities.

It doesn't take 75% of a nation to cause a civil war.

In a nation of 350,000,000 people it is possible to have a civil war with less than 10,000,000 engaged in ongoing organized or semi-organized violence, perhaps even less.

Haiti is effectively in a civil war and most people are simply trying to avoid gang vs police firefights and are going about their day trying to find food and water.

The USA will almost certainly see a genuine full-scale civil war by 2030.

I will define a "genuine full-scale civil war" as follows.

1- Effective federal control will have been lost in at least one or more states. [de facto secession/loss of control]

OR

2- At least one more states will formally repudiate federal/DC authority and will refuse to take orders from DC. [de jure secession]

Along with 1 OR 2, there will also be an AND condition 3.

3- At least 100 casualties per day in sustained combat, terrorist, insurgency operations related to the civil war.


I believe those conditions will be met in some manner, in a conflict within the USA, before 2030.
 
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So, related…Anyone going to watch what will undoubtedly be a leftist trope, but I’m intrigued anyway…”Civil War” started today in theaters around here.

91% on rotten tomatoes, and my son wants to see it, so likely going out to see it tonight.

Trying to talk my wife into going too, but she’s resisting, LoL.

Never try to talk a woman into anything, just proclaim what you are doing and then go do it. If she wants to follow you she will follow you, otherwise she stays home and can do laundry and dishes while you're out.
 
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