Who is Byrd? I'm guessing a senator and democrat, but what state? Like I said I'm guessing and could be completely wrong
No Fee for Surppressors or short barrell rifles
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The KKK guy. The Democrat. He's dead but the rule was named after him.
Robert Byrd - Wikipedia
A real class act.
In December 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore G. Bilbo:
Sounds like a tax stamp will still be needed, since the word "tax" is still in play.
That and it has been expressly stated in many places, and inferred by the removal of the HPA and SHORT language from the BBB, that suppressors and SB*s will not be removed from the NFA.
They just shoved a BBC up our backsides. Turns out a lot of gun owners are into that.
Fox News is not a legislative analyst. The actual signed law matters, not Rupert Murdoch's sales pitch.
What matters most is implementation, so how ATF/FBI staff review things is the crux. No matter what the new bill/law says. If you don't believe me, either just wait and see, or look into US Forest Service managing land as big W wilderness even though it lacks proper Congressional determination as big W wilderness.
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How long before it goes back to years wait times since they ain’t makin no money from it.
It’s freeeeeeee, just wait 18 months hahahahhahaha
Grab that bathroom sink counter and grip it hard, cause theys about to grudge fuck some peeps
It’s freeeeeeee, just wait 18 months hahahahhahaha
Grab that bathroom sink counter and grip it hard, cause theys about to grudge fuck some peeps
Don’t worry, as soon as the Republicunts get blown out in the midterms, some member of that worthless, useless, feckless, spineless party will inevitably introduce a bill to “get it right this time”.
And yes, now that the NFA is on everyone’s radar, expect the communists to shove it up our asses and break it off when they return to a majority.
$200 in 1934 is about $4800 today. Expect that to be pushed.
You have to be completely retarded to be a gun owner and support these POS’s.
And yes, now that the NFA is on everyone’s radar, expect the communists to shove it up our asses and break it off when they return to a majority.
$200 in 1934 is about $4800 today. Expect that to be pushed.
You have to be completely retarded to be a gun owner and support these POS’s.
You might cynically start thinking, if this does get implemented, that they intended to axe the fees anyway a few years back, and were hoping to make big fee intake on recently amped-up firearm and suppressor sales.
It's probably a good idea to not look hopefully at things, and just be surprised when they happen. The real problem is what else is in this monstrosity that nobody has read critically before passage. Modern politics is all bait and switch, so if they appease firearms folks with a fee cut, what are they doing elsewhere in the bill that hurts worse than the occasional $200 fee?
It's probably a good idea to not look hopefully at things, and just be surprised when they happen. The real problem is what else is in this monstrosity that nobody has read critically before passage. Modern politics is all bait and switch, so if they appease firearms folks with a fee cut, what are they doing elsewhere in the bill that hurts worse than the occasional $200 fee?
Sniper’s Hide: “What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do they not understand? This is bullshit!”
Also Sniper’s Hide: “My new SBR with a can just got out of jail! Check it out guys!”
Actively participating in something you disagree with is my favorite flavor of hypocrisy.
-Stan
Also Sniper’s Hide: “My new SBR with a can just got out of jail! Check it out guys!”
Actively participating in something you disagree with is my favorite flavor of hypocrisy.
-Stan
So you are saying that you have no cans nor SBRs then? Do you have a permit to carry a weapon? Have you purchased any weapons legally? A hunting license? Do you own a home and pay real estate taxes?
I’m curious where you draw the line or are you just bloviating?
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Probably doesn’t pay his taxes, which means he grows all his own stuff cause he refuses to pay sales tax.
Probably doesn’t even own a gun cause he won’t fill out a 4473
List goes on and on for these fellas probably
The fingerprints and forms are the hassle.
Just like the supposed "no tax on overtime" this is a nothing burger.
Just like the supposed "no tax on overtime" this is a nothing burger.
i don't believe so. I think it's a heavier lift to get things INTO the NFA, especially "mundane" things.
It stages multiple possibilities.
The one we want, $0 tax kicks one leg loose from under check, tax and register opening the door for eliminating check and register as maybe unconstitutional. But it wouldn't impact GCA so still NICS and file.
The one we don't want, the curtain has been lifted on how to change the tax so demtards might figure out how to raise the tax. Especially since they already proposed such an amendment to the OBBB but it didn't make the cut.
Got it.
Do you participate in anything you disagree with? Income taxes, HOAs, carry permits, show ID ... it's a long list but that's the gist.
Curious about how to pursue the lifestyle if you've found a way to make it work.
Only life, but I lack the constitution for suicide and I have commitments that I must fulfill that take priority over my preferences.
Regarding all the requirements of living in society that you mentioned, I don’t assign emotional value to them as the ramifications of breaking the rules are greater than the temporary satisfaction of defiance.
-Stan
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This. Not a big deal for suppressors but being able to actually SBR all of my pistols will be nice.I have a few SBRs but I'd still pistol it just to skip the paperwork. Or pistol it when leaving TN at least
I'd pay twice as much if I could skip the paperwork and records.
Got it.
I don't believe any of the things I mentioned are "required". They're all voluntary under the right conditions, it's by our choices that they become "required". They can all be avoided with the right lifestyle.
So there are some things you participate in that you disagree with because of the value you derive from your choices of activities and/or possessions which require submission to the realm. These things/activities are important enough that you will compromise your implied integrity to have them.
This is starting to sound like a case of turtles and tails.
No a stupid parliamentarian citing the Byrd rule kept it out…. Was a bunch of BS
While I disagree with removing them, the parliamentarian was actually applying the Byrd rule correctly. Had the democrats not challenged the inclusion of the HOA and Short act as written, the parliamentarian wouldn’t be in the conversation.
More than anything else, congress is driven by rules. Like them or not.
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It’s convenient to ignore or not know about the many times in the past that the parliamentarian has removed things from similar Democratic bills. But it does and has occurred quite often.
Is $0.00 truly still a tax now? Does this $0.00 no fee open other aplicable avenues for challenges? Was NFA approved under Congress taxing power?
You can't swing a dead cat on the internet without hitting an article about it.
GOA to File “One Big Beautiful Lawsuit” Against NFA Registry as “One Big Beautiful Bill” Heads to President’s Desk - Gun.net
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Second Amendment Groups Announce Intent to Sue Over NFA After OBBB Signing
Second Amendment groups plan to challenge the NFA's constitutionality after tax changes.
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BREAKING: 2A Groups Sue to Kill NFA After Trump Bill Passes
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Not really. As I stated before, the tax is still there. The tax is $0 but it is still there in the form of a tax. Now that the precedent has been set to alter the previous tax of $200 (explicitly defined in the heinous act) the new $0 tax could real easily become a $10,000 tax. This was no win and will prove to be a real loss in the not distant future.
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