Eley Ultra Extreme Long Range Gen 2
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Saw that, got bit last time, moved onto Lapua SLR
Have a couple bricks in my cart but have been back and forth with it……will definitely wait for opinions and results here before pulling the trigger.
Hope fully they got it sorted out. Don't think Eley would release it again if they weren't confident it can deliver. Ordered a few boxes to chrono against a good lot of Lapua long range my gun likes, down to last brick and no luck replenishing so nice if theyre's another viable option.
It definitely likes the 16TW better.
Will play with it at range to make the final call. Will say 2 boxes in, I'll not be purchasing any more. It just does not do what 20.00 a box ammo should IMHO.
Will play with it at range to make the final call. Will say 2 boxes in, I'll not be purchasing any more. It just does not do what 20.00 a box ammo should IMHO.
Try it out at 100 or longer and let us know. I know that SLR just ok at 50 for me but better than my center X and Midas at 100.
I can never find the top end Eley stuff in stock soo….i wish I could post groups of it but I can’t cause I don’t have any so I won’t.
Yep out my Brux the slowest I’ve had as far as real numbers is with a lot that says 1044 but chrono’d at 1086. Most of it regardless of what the box says is 1100-1130 over a chrono
In my semi autos two different lots of the same speed SABR..1060 averaged 1119 over 50 rounds.
I got a RimX barreled action this week from a guy and started ammo testing. I found a lot of Match & Semiauto BR that shoot pretty good. The 20 shot group is the Match & the 35 group is the SABR. Both shoot well. Hart 24" barrel with
EC Tuner.
EC Tuner.
SABR is my absolute go to in my KIDD rifles for semi auto NRL and PRS this year.
Have lot tested about 11 different speeds and though not all, the majority will run numbers equivalent to Lapua Center X and LR !
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Tagging in to see how folks like the new version. I'll also pile on that I have been really impressed with SABR in my Volquartsen and Kidd rigs, and it's also shot really well in my CZ. No idea why but it seems to perform really well across a wide range of rigs.
Wind was 8-10mph from 10:00 but pretty constant.
CZ457
Brux MTU @ 26” glued in
MDT Premier 2
Razor Gen 3
Jard at 10oz
Cleaned the barrel since it was seasoned for Eley match. Then shot 25rds of the Eley Ultra 2 before I started chronoing and shooting groups.
Really didn’t see a need to shoot anymore so seasoned my barrel back up with Eley Match. Then shot these groups at 100 with a lot of Tenex I had and two different lots of Match.
Chrono numbers for the Eley Ultra
CZ457
Brux MTU @ 26” glued in
MDT Premier 2
Razor Gen 3
Jard at 10oz
Cleaned the barrel since it was seasoned for Eley match. Then shot 25rds of the Eley Ultra 2 before I started chronoing and shooting groups.
Really didn’t see a need to shoot anymore so seasoned my barrel back up with Eley Match. Then shot these groups at 100 with a lot of Tenex I had and two different lots of Match.
Chrono numbers for the Eley Ultra
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Then checking zero with the Eley that I shoot in matches. Kinda gives you an idea. Maybe if you find a good lot# of the Ultra it’ll shine but at this price point I’ll stick with Eley Match.
- Nov 3, 2010
- 10,999
- 24,595
With the wind I wasn’t expecting .75 or smaller but the chrono numbers don’t lie. Almost 50fps spread would suck at distance.
- Nov 3, 2010
- 10,999
- 24,595
For 20 plus a box, yeah that stuff isn’t doing well. The Eley Team flat nose does better in my stock 457 for almost 5 bucks less a box
Thank you for the test. Based on your shooting ( and Match groups look good) I am glad I skipped this. Good shooting!
I would never rule out trying a particular brand of ammo based on how it shoots in another persons gun. Also, this is only one particular lot. Like all match grade ammo, it will need to be lot tested. I have shot a lot of Eley Match and 10X over the years. Not all of it is good ammo either. Some lots can be really bad. Time will tell if this new offering from Eley is worth its cost. I won't base my opinion on one lot and one gun.
Very true, but I have truly moved on from Eley now. I have 2 1/2 cases of center X, 2 of Midas, last 7 bricks of SLR waiting on a case of it. I had tried some of the first edition just to see if they made a big advance, they had not and seems still have not.
Summary:
At 100Y Gen 2 avg. was 0.626" with a velocity of 1,099fps, SD of 5.9, ES of 22.9 taken over 46 shots. Better than my Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision (SABP) "control group" (which is my current go-to at 0.738-1.75" (but weird things happened Sunday with the SABP that I think opened it up a bit from what I'm used to during testing which I'll explain below).
Result
Needs more testing as the slow fire vs rapid fire strings were more than a little disconcerning having almost 3/4" INCREASE in group spread on the slow fire(?, which seemingly should be the opposite). If the groups end up being accurate though, the $7-8 per box price increase over SABP would buy me just under 1/4" reduced group sizes. So $8 to go from just over 3/4"down to just over 1/2".
Testing Details
Let me preface this by saying I definitely wasn't feeling "steady" on any of these. Only time I had a chance to test was during a Recreational Rimfire Match at my club last Sunday. I arrived almost too late to shoot cause I had to chase down the Fedx guy in my neighborhood delivering these from Killough because Fedx missed my scheduled delivery date (was supposed to be Sat. so I could leisurely test these all weekend). Arriving at the match I ended up rushing to get my equipment setup, put out my targets, get my gear in order, etc. and even during the barrel conditioning shots I could tell I was waggling more than usual off a bench, where I usually like to shoot testing stuff like this relaxed prone on a mat.
Rifle is a Bergara B14r with DI Precision 24" barrel with a Stiener T6Xi set at 30x in an MPA JAE Gen5 stock, shot off an Atlas and rear bag on a wooden shooting bench. Conditions were: 91 degrees F/29.3Hg/59% Humidity.
Keep in mind although this is a 50Y UIT Smallbore target I was shooting these at 101Yards.
First Volley: 5 shots on each except for 4 shots on top left target as I miscounted. Top 2 slow fire targets I had 10 minutes time to complete. Bottom two targets are Rapid Fire, 5 shots in 30 seconds. Last lower right target I made a 0.1 click adjustment down (and possibly right, don't recall but looks probable). What's interesting is the Raipd Fire sequences on the bottom 2 targets were much better. Possibly shooting them all in a lull in the wind?
2nd Volley: Again, top two taregts slow fire in 10 minutes. On both those left hand flyers it was definitely NOT me. It "could" have been wind but the gusts that day were super small, like maybe 2-3mph coming from our 4 o'clock which may account for it? Again, interesting the rapid fire shots on the bottom 2 targets were excellent.
So just for yuks on the thrid volley I threw in some SABP. I was thinking, lube is probably the same right? So I only did 5 sighters and made a slight scope correction for what I thought would work. What I got was a jam-o-matic. Almost every other round failed to extract. Not sure if it was Gen2 lube related or possible carbon ring build-up pressure from the Gen2 switchover, but never had THAT happen before in this rifle with SABP. On the bottom rapid fires I was trying to toss them in one-by-one and extract by running the bolt two or three times. Finally gave up on that last target as I could feel I wasn't lining them up properly by hand and was getting lead shavings in my results. BTW: ~3/4" groups @ 100Y out of SABP is about the norm that I usually see shooting our clubs NRL-style matches. And my SABP velocity is ~1,070fps on average, so the Gen2 stuff is definitely faster by about 30fps.
Hopefully I can get out and try it in my CZ457 (Whidden Lothar Walther barrel, Vanquish stock) but I still am having trouble with MPA's new side mag. release mechanism properly angling the rounds into the chamber without shaving the lead a bit. I may just feed them by hand very delicately into the chamber as I want to see results from another rifle since I still have 2 1/2 boxes of this Gen2 stuff remaining.
At 100Y Gen 2 avg. was 0.626" with a velocity of 1,099fps, SD of 5.9, ES of 22.9 taken over 46 shots. Better than my Semi-Auto Benchrest Precision (SABP) "control group" (which is my current go-to at 0.738-1.75" (but weird things happened Sunday with the SABP that I think opened it up a bit from what I'm used to during testing which I'll explain below).
Result
Needs more testing as the slow fire vs rapid fire strings were more than a little disconcerning having almost 3/4" INCREASE in group spread on the slow fire(?, which seemingly should be the opposite). If the groups end up being accurate though, the $7-8 per box price increase over SABP would buy me just under 1/4" reduced group sizes. So $8 to go from just over 3/4"down to just over 1/2".
Testing Details
Let me preface this by saying I definitely wasn't feeling "steady" on any of these. Only time I had a chance to test was during a Recreational Rimfire Match at my club last Sunday. I arrived almost too late to shoot cause I had to chase down the Fedx guy in my neighborhood delivering these from Killough because Fedx missed my scheduled delivery date (was supposed to be Sat. so I could leisurely test these all weekend). Arriving at the match I ended up rushing to get my equipment setup, put out my targets, get my gear in order, etc. and even during the barrel conditioning shots I could tell I was waggling more than usual off a bench, where I usually like to shoot testing stuff like this relaxed prone on a mat.
Rifle is a Bergara B14r with DI Precision 24" barrel with a Stiener T6Xi set at 30x in an MPA JAE Gen5 stock, shot off an Atlas and rear bag on a wooden shooting bench. Conditions were: 91 degrees F/29.3Hg/59% Humidity.
Keep in mind although this is a 50Y UIT Smallbore target I was shooting these at 101Yards.
First Volley: 5 shots on each except for 4 shots on top left target as I miscounted. Top 2 slow fire targets I had 10 minutes time to complete. Bottom two targets are Rapid Fire, 5 shots in 30 seconds. Last lower right target I made a 0.1 click adjustment down (and possibly right, don't recall but looks probable). What's interesting is the Raipd Fire sequences on the bottom 2 targets were much better. Possibly shooting them all in a lull in the wind?
2nd Volley: Again, top two taregts slow fire in 10 minutes. On both those left hand flyers it was definitely NOT me. It "could" have been wind but the gusts that day were super small, like maybe 2-3mph coming from our 4 o'clock which may account for it? Again, interesting the rapid fire shots on the bottom 2 targets were excellent.
So just for yuks on the thrid volley I threw in some SABP. I was thinking, lube is probably the same right? So I only did 5 sighters and made a slight scope correction for what I thought would work. What I got was a jam-o-matic. Almost every other round failed to extract. Not sure if it was Gen2 lube related or possible carbon ring build-up pressure from the Gen2 switchover, but never had THAT happen before in this rifle with SABP. On the bottom rapid fires I was trying to toss them in one-by-one and extract by running the bolt two or three times. Finally gave up on that last target as I could feel I wasn't lining them up properly by hand and was getting lead shavings in my results. BTW: ~3/4" groups @ 100Y out of SABP is about the norm that I usually see shooting our clubs NRL-style matches. And my SABP velocity is ~1,070fps on average, so the Gen2 stuff is definitely faster by about 30fps.
Hopefully I can get out and try it in my CZ457 (Whidden Lothar Walther barrel, Vanquish stock) but I still am having trouble with MPA's new side mag. release mechanism properly angling the rounds into the chamber without shaving the lead a bit. I may just feed them by hand very delicately into the chamber as I want to see results from another rifle since I still have 2 1/2 boxes of this Gen2 stuff remaining.
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I have a brick of the first batch and a brick of Tenex I got as settlement.
No more ELEY for me!!!!!
-Richard
No more ELEY for me!!!!!
-Richard
