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Magpul - 2025 New Maztech X4-FCS & X4-LRF

#251
Can confirm, it does not hold zero with the maz tec, have did a few cycles of tighten, unsightly, its all over the place.

So make sure you tighten down and its def a set it and forget, vs being able to use on multiple platforms.

But at 5k for a 1500nm laser, nothing else beats its price to performance.
 
#252
zinny said:
Can confirm, it does not hold zero with the maz tec, have did a few cycles of tighten, unsightly, its all over the place.

So make sure you tighten down and its def a set it and forget, vs being able to use on multiple platforms.

But at 5k for a 1500nm laser, nothing else beats its price to performance.
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But if you leave it on a gun does it hook zero

Prior conversations about wmlrf referred to zero shift from thermal/temp conditions , use / handling , etc
 
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#256
Landed today while I was at the range. No feedback yet other than I look forward to their 90 degree connector, whenever they come out.
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#257
m1ajunkie said:
Cost to performance is exactly what I'm referring to here.... To be fair, I don't claim to be a Mars expert as I've never felt like a $10k+ rangefinder made sense for me so not something I've spent time researching. My only experience with them is being around guys running them in matches.

So with that in mind, I'm genuinely curious what the additional cost of the mars and other similarly priced units actually benefit a shooter over the Maztech (IR illum could be one thing)?
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The only thing I want to know from Maztech is where they source their 1534nm laser rangefinder modules. I tried searching 1534nm laser rangefinder online. Kind of interesting what comes up.And also emailed Maztech about it. Still waiting on response. I assume their housing is machined in house since there’s pictures of it on their web. Just want to know about the modules. I know that Wilcox source their 1550nm modules through IDSSI which is based out of Virginia. I don’t know about MARS. Could be the same since it’s a 1550nm. Just assuming though. Anyways I’m only speculating. Take it with a grain of salt.
 
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#258
Rhed said:
The only thing I want to know from Maztech is where they source their 1534nm laser rangefinder modules. I tried searching 1534nm laser rangefinder online. Kind of interesting what comes up.And also emailed Maztech about it. Still waiting on response. I assume their housing is machined in house since there’s pictures of it on their web. Just want to know about the modules. I know that Wilcox source their 1550nm modules through IDSSI which is based out of Virginia. I don’t know about MARS. Could be the same since it’s a 1550nm. Just assuming though. Anyways I’m only speculating. Take it with a grain of salt.
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Are you implying

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#259
Regardless of origin, the units are literally half the price of the its nearest competitors and perform just as well.

I think the fact that there are little if any on the px is a good indicator.
 
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zinny said:
Regardless of origin, the units are literally half the price of the its nearest competitors and perform just as well.

I think the fact that there are little if any on the px is a good indicator.
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Well I guess.. For some, why pay for the really right stuff when you can get it cheaper from Leo right?
 
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Landed today while I was at the range. No feedback yet other than I look forward to their 90 degree connector, whenever they come out. View attachment 8739036
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Huh. I always wondered about lazing through windows. I wonder if it’s safe with my much weaker 900nm Vortex Fury 5000? I don’t see any caution to that effect in the manual, so I assume it’s safe.
 
#263
The 900nm models are capted at an eye safe .7mw power, like all other IR lasers.

Reason why the 1500nm variant performs better is because they are all "full power" devices. The shorter wave length gets absorbed by the cornea so that the radiation does not reach the rods/cones and faque anything up.

But if you blast it at a window 2 feet from you and it all get directed back, can't say that very safe, like directly looking at the sun.
 
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zinny said:
The 900nm models are capted at an eye safe .7mw power, like all other IR lasers.

Reason why the 1500nm variant performs better is because they are all "full power" devices. The shorter wave length gets absorbed by the cornea so that the radiation does not reach the rods/cones and faque anything up.

But if you blast it at a window 2 feet from you and it all get directed back, can't say that very safe, like directly looking at the sun.
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There are multiple warnings on my 15k to not range through windows or at reflective things less than 40yds away.... 1500 series are for real.
 
#266
TheOE800 said:
I mean I’d be upset if it’s using a particular Chinese produced module rated for 10km (15km visible).
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For sure. I am hoping it is a US made laser but somethings got to give right? Either Envision, Wilcox are making a crazy amount of money or Maztech is running slim.
 
#267
alfmoonspace said:
For sure. I am hoping it is a US made laser but somethings got to give right? Either Envision, Wilcox are making a crazy amount of money or Maztech is running slim.
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Well for what is worth. There is no US manufacturer that produces 1534nm modules. Only 1550nm which I know of one, well which the only one I know of based out of Virginia http://www.idssi.com/portfolio_page/dlem-lrf-family/
They only produce 1550nm modules. And what Wilcox sources from. Possibly Envision too. I mean it would be the only way to get a US government contract to use 100% us materials. I mean if Maztech make their modules in house, I believe it’ll have way more of a premium price cause the work put into to producing such modules is handmade like the 1550nm with quality chipsets. Again take my word with a grain of salt. I don’t want this thread to become a debate.
 
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#268
The full power beamed ones just are full power on the IR laser for aiming. To me wasn't worth another 2k as these are ~7k from what I could tell before buying.

Still, I'd like to see some footage haha
 
#271
Maztech Industries does not source rangefinder modules for the X4-LRF-15K. Unlike our competitors, who typically use the German Jenoptik DLEM modules, we produce our entire assembly in-house. This allows us to ensure quality and performance while simultaneously driving down costs. The diode-pumped lasers in our system far outperform the standard direct diode modules, with per pulse energies several orders of magnitude larger. While this wavelength is still Class 1 and typically eye-safe, it can be destructive to the high sensitivity receiver in our system if enough energy is bounced back from close range. This is why we recommend not firing at close reflective targets.

Our InGaAs receiver semiconductor design is fabricated at foundries in the US along with our silicon chipset. Maztech’s clean-room facilities located in Irvine, California and Stevensville, Montana produce the X4-LRF-15K assembly from the detector die to the end product. Our emphasis on vertical integration will continue to allow us to bring the highest performance products at reasonable prices.

Our 15K modules will be available for purchase soon. Keep an eye on our website for our modules and many more US MADE products in the near future!


Maztech 15k modules in thermal chamber
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Maztech custom InGaAs receivers
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#272
Maztech Industries said:
Maztech Industries does not source rangefinder modules for the X4-LRF-15K. Unlike our competitors, who typically use the German Jenoptik DLEM modules, we produce our entire assembly in-house. This allows us to ensure quality and performance while simultaneously driving down costs. The diode-pumped lasers in our system far outperform the standard direct diode modules, with per pulse energies several orders of magnitude larger. While this wavelength is still Class 1 and typically eye-safe, it can be destructive to the high sensitivity receiver in our system if enough energy is bounced back from close range. This is why we recommend not firing at close reflective targets.

Our InGaAs receiver semiconductor design is fabricated at foundries in the US along with our silicon chipset. Maztech’s clean-room facilities located in Irvine, California and Stevensville, Montana produce the X4-LRF-15K assembly from the detector die to the end product. Our emphasis on vertical integration will continue to allow us to bring the highest performance products at reasonable prices.

Our 15K modules will be available for purchase soon. Keep an eye on our website for our modules and many more US MADE products in the near future!


Maztech 15k modules in thermal chamber
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Maztech custom InGaAs receivers
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That is bad ass! Really, way to control the market by making your own lasers.

Is that 15k module that you are referring to the same unit that is being sold on Magpul's site? Maybe this is outside the scope of the thread but why did you choose to partner up with Magpul and not go direct?

Thanks for the post!
 
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#273
Maztech Industries said:
Maztech Industries does not source rangefinder modules for the X4-LRF-15K. Unlike our competitors, who typically use the German Jenoptik DLEM modules, we produce our entire assembly in-house. This allows us to ensure quality and performance while simultaneously driving down costs. The diode-pumped lasers in our system far outperform the standard direct diode modules, with per pulse energies several orders of magnitude larger. While this wavelength is still Class 1 and typically eye-safe, it can be destructive to the high sensitivity receiver in our system if enough energy is bounced back from close range. This is why we recommend not firing at close reflective targets.

Our InGaAs receiver semiconductor design is fabricated at foundries in the US along with our silicon chipset. Maztech’s clean-room facilities located in Irvine, California and Stevensville, Montana produce the X4-LRF-15K assembly from the detector die to the end product. Our emphasis on vertical integration will continue to allow us to bring the highest performance products at reasonable prices.

Our 15K modules will be available for purchase soon. Keep an eye on our website for our modules and many more US MADE products in the near future!


Maztech 15k modules in thermal chamber
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Maztech custom InGaAs receivers
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Thank you for the clarification. Good to know Maztech is 100% us made. What about your gov/mil/ le version (15M)? Are they available to purchase (with creds of course)? What is the retail on the high power units? Thank you!
 
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Maztech Industries said:
Maztech Industries does not source rangefinder modules for the X4-LRF-15K. Unlike our competitors, who typically use the German Jenoptik DLEM modules, we produce our entire assembly in-house. This allows us to ensure quality and performance while simultaneously driving down costs. The diode-pumped lasers in our system far outperform the standard direct diode modules, with per pulse energies several orders of magnitude larger. While this wavelength is still Class 1 and typically eye-safe, it can be destructive to the high sensitivity receiver in our system if enough energy is bounced back from close range. This is why we recommend not firing at close reflective targets.

Our InGaAs receiver semiconductor design is fabricated at foundries in the US along with our silicon chipset. Maztech’s clean-room facilities located in Irvine, California and Stevensville, Montana produce the X4-LRF-15K assembly from the detector die to the end product. Our emphasis on vertical integration will continue to allow us to bring the highest performance products at reasonable prices.

Our 15K modules will be available for purchase soon. Keep an eye on our website for our modules and many more US MADE products in the near future!


Maztech 15k modules in thermal chamber
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Maztech custom InGaAs receivers
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Now please do a 90° cable and trade in program for this remote I’ll never use.
 
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#276
Maztech Industries said:
Maztech Industries does not source rangefinder modules for the X4-LRF-15K. Unlike our competitors, who typically use the German Jenoptik DLEM modules, we produce our entire assembly in-house. This allows us to ensure quality and performance while simultaneously driving down costs. The diode-pumped lasers in our system far outperform the standard direct diode modules, with per pulse energies several orders of magnitude larger. While this wavelength is still Class 1 and typically eye-safe, it can be destructive to the high sensitivity receiver in our system if enough energy is bounced back from close range. This is why we recommend not firing at close reflective targets.

Our InGaAs receiver semiconductor design is fabricated at foundries in the US along with our silicon chipset. Maztech’s clean-room facilities located in Irvine, California and Stevensville, Montana produce the X4-LRF-15K assembly from the detector die to the end product. Our emphasis on vertical integration will continue to allow us to bring the highest performance products at reasonable prices.

Our 15K modules will be available for purchase soon. Keep an eye on our website for our modules and many more US MADE products in the near future!


Maztech 15k modules in thermal chamber
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Maztech custom InGaAs receivers
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The listed maximum ballistic drop the X4-FCS™ can display is 115 MOA (33MIL).
If my zero is at 1K yds may I expect I will have solution of 33 mils past 1K yds?
 
#277
  • The first module that will be available has the same performance as the module in our 15k system but the form-factor is a little different. Here is a sneak-peek
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  • 15M units are available for purchase directly through Maztech. Unfortunately FDA restrictions limit sales to government agency purchase only. They retail for $6995.

  • A low profile right-angle remote along with a wireless ultra-wideband remote are currently in the works. More info will be available as we get closer to launching it.
 
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#279
Finally got to take the 15k out and had a few questions:

Sometimes while ranging the haptic feedback is longer and greater. I'm assuming that's a multi laser range.

And in the screen on some ranges I'll see a second range in the lower right corner of the screen. What is this for? It's usually 10-15% further than the base range.

Other than that waiting patiently for a better remote plug, like everyone else. So much better to use the 4k I had previously. Lol the 4k can now live on the spotter for backup
 
#280
Maztech Industries said:
  • The first module that will be available has the same performance as the module in our 15k system but the form-factor is a little different. Here is a sneak-peek
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  • 15M units are available for purchase directly through Maztech. Unfortunately FDA restrictions limit sales to government agency purchase only. They retail for $6995.

  • A low profile right-angle remote along with a wireless ultra-wideband remote are currently in the works. More info will be available as we get closer to launching it.
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Do the Maztech devices conform to the DOD Modular Sniper Display ICD?
 
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The listed maximum ballistic drop the X4-FCS™ can display is 115 MOA (33MIL).
If my zero is at 1K yds may I expect I will have solution of 33 mils past 1K yds?
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115 MOA is the maximum that the FCS can display including the adjustments made to zero the system. (i.e. if you use 10 MOA of adjustment in the alignment menu you have 105 MOA left for ballistic drop)


Sometimes while ranging the haptic feedback is longer and greater. I'm assuming that's a multi laser range.
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Check the haptic menu options for configuring your feedback settings


And in the screen on some ranges I'll see a second range in the lower right corner of the screen. What is this for? It's usually 10-15% further than the base range.
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The 15K LRF supports multiple target detection. The primary range return is the first detection and the small return that shows up in the bottom right is the last target. You are most likely picking up the background behind the target you are aiming at.
 
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#286
OEM LRF modules are now for sale. 🎉

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Maztech OEM LRF Modules Now Available

Maztech X4-LRF OEM modules are now for sale. 🎉 Unit price is $3495 with discounts available for volume orders. These modules have the same performance specs as our standalone 15K rangefinders. Those who are interested can fill out the form at the bottom of this page.
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#287
Maztech Industries said:
OEM LRF modules are now for sale. 🎉

www.snipershide.com

Maztech OEM LRF Modules Now Available

Maztech X4-LRF OEM modules are now for sale. 🎉 Unit price is $3495 with discounts available for volume orders. These modules have the same performance specs as our standalone 15K rangefinders. Those who are interested can fill out the form at the bottom of this page.
www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com
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Plans for a 1.5” center FCS that will fit optics like NF 2.5-20x50 , NF 4-16x42, zco 4-20x50?
 
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