Using a microprism as a piggyback optic

jaguar0405

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Hi! I am setting up my first AR. I have pretty bad astigmatism, so red dots starburst and are useless beyond 10 to 15 yards. I have a PA SLx 1x Microprism that performed beautifully on my first range trip. My LPVO has since arrived (thanks UPS for losing the first one), and I was wondering if anyone else has tried mounting a microprism, rather than a red dot.

What mount would you recommend, as I would need its secondary interface to be as low as possible (since the sight is already so much larger than a red dot)?

I suppose I could do a 45-degree offset, but all of what I have seen/heard from guntubers and the like is that piggyback > offset.
 
Did you figure out a solution for this OP? I’ve been searching for something too but haven't come up with anything. Best I could find was a “low pro” picatinny diving board mount but the lowest mount for the optic is 1.1”. So with a 30 mm 1.5” LPVO mount I was setting at about 3.75” overall for the SLX. Don’t mind a little heads up but that’s a bit much!
 
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I have one of those SLX 1x prisms, nice for the price, yes long eye relief surprisingly. I am not a piggyback/12noon guy I like offset 45deg. I have thought of trying the SLX prism but never got past thinking of it. I think you could make it work if the available mounts do not put it too high/tall for you.
 
The HOB is not much more than a microdot, and about identical to an Aimpoint-style enclosed dot. I'm very happy with the setup and find it quite comfortable to use either optic. I have the SLX zeroed at 50y - I know that means at further ranges it will be way off, but that's what the LPVO is for.

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OP, if you or anyone else is interested, I altered my included micro prism mount, a picatinny piggy back mount, and an LPVO mount to shave .54” off the HOB for a low-ish profile micro prism piggy back option. As mentioned in my earlier post, the included 1.1” micro prism mount on the lowest piggy back picatinny mount I could find with the 30 mm 1.5” LPVO mount put me at about 5” HOB. This was too much for me personally.

Before I get into how I did it, I know there’s gonna be a few keyboard warriors that know best and will ask what’s the point in taking all that time when there’s better optics with better mounting options out there. So, to answer that:
I prefer not to make decisions based solely on what Reddit and Instagram tells us. I do what works best for me, not the internet. I have a stigmatism. Have the tism? Get the prism. And I really like the ACSS reticle as my simple brain is naturally drawn to it. I also have 3 vertebrae in my neck that’s been fused so, again doing what works best for me. The last and most important point is that I’m a budget minded hands on “need a tool, make a tool” kind of guy. With that, you should know that I don’t have a lathe or mill. I have common tools, a drill press, and some “gunsmithing / armorers” tools. I’m just a dumb redneck with a small workshop that likes to do things. So, this is possible for most to achieve I think. That said, there’s a few minor aesthetic things I’d change if I do it again but, with all that out of the way, here’s how I made it.

I first ground down the micro prism’s 1.1” provided mount and got rid of the picatinny attachment portion. I mainly wanted the mount for the wider footprint since it’s wider than the tapered ACOG mini / micro prism footprint on the optic itself. I wasn’t concerned about “destroying” the mount because if I go back to using the micro prism as a standalone again, I’ll use my ADM 1.93” mount.

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Then I put a new 30 mm 1.41” scope mount and a separate scope ring on a lapping bar to file and polish down the tops of both components to the same flat plane.


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Afterwards, I centered, marked, and drilled the mounting holes through the aforementioned parts. After countersinking the underside of the rings for the mounting screws, I used an extra screw and lapping compound to get a perfect fir.

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Next, to get the matte black finish back I used aluminum black. I wasn’t too concerned with this process as this is more of a test run for now and will eventually rattle can it all anyway.

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After re-blacking, I installed it all back onto the lapping bar to insure everything was inline. You’ll see in the pictures that the lapping shows I was just off center on one of my mounting holes but not by much. Once lapped, everything was cleaned and installed.

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And here is the final result. That .5" made a decent difference. The new HOB is 4.419". I originally wanted the micro prism mounted to the rear but found that it got in the way of the LPVO's throw lever and it seemed to close with NODs as it obstructed a lot of my view.

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The reason for the 1.41” LPVO mount obviously helped by .1” over a 1.5” but that wasn’t the reason I used it. I found that, because of my neck fusions a 1.25” worked well in prone and on bench while the 1.5” worked kinda ok on the flat range providing it wasn’t for longer periods and I wasn’t wearing a PC. So, I tried to go somewhat in the middle to get the best of both worlds (for me) since I was adding a “heads up” close range piggy back anyway.

As for the mounts, I definitely wasn’t going to use some high speed mounts to do this on my first go. The LPVO mount is a 1.41” 30 mm by Triton and the piggy back scope ring is a 30mm picatinny piggy back mount by Monstrum. I got both off Amazon for about $50 total. My thought was if it didn’t work or I messed it up I was only out $50 at most. I’ll put it to the test in the next few days to see if I love it enough to upgrade the hardware or keep it as is if it lasts through some abuse and holds my zeros.
 
That's interesting. The countersink on the interior bore, deep enough that the screw heads didn't need to have a matched radius?
Yes. That’s correct. That’s actually one of the other things I was checking when I lapped it all. I was concerned getting enough depth while still having enough material to hold in the screw. I just took my time and checked it every little bit. There was a decent amount of material though so I’m not concerned.
 
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That's some thoughtful work.

Having to radius the screw heads seems a cool concept until the screw is being threaded down and the radius changes all around the clockface! I would guess inverting the threaded part would be the only other option, tightening on a nut with the bolt's head being the matched radius. Which would be finicky work itself. I like your result!
 
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