The night force folks keep hinting at something new to replace the 2.5-10x42 NXS coming out around shot show time.
Rifle Scopes Is there a market for a good MPVO
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Mike Crawford and Skott Mealer two “nf folks”, who work in sales and warranty department.
That a way to burn a source.
Just hints not specifics. I did another post asking if anyone else has heard anything. I’m just an optics whore like many others with no insider information.
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Will be interesting to see what NF brings to the table.
If we are playing a guessing game I'd say it's an NX8 of some kind, so the fabled 1.5-12 thats been mentioned.
Personally I think I'm kind of over the whole dream MPVO idea, I just want some lower magnification FFP scopes that I can use for hunting/cross over rifles.
A nice set of 2.5-10, 3-12, 4-16 scopes that don't weigh 30oz and have a properly sized reticle is all I really want.
8x, 10x, 12x erector scopes that are only 8" long really do nothing for me.
If we are playing a guessing game I'd say it's an NX8 of some kind, so the fabled 1.5-12 thats been mentioned.
Personally I think I'm kind of over the whole dream MPVO idea, I just want some lower magnification FFP scopes that I can use for hunting/cross over rifles.
A nice set of 2.5-10, 3-12, 4-16 scopes that don't weigh 30oz and have a properly sized reticle is all I really want.
8x, 10x, 12x erector scopes that are only 8" long really do nothing for me.
I have always hoped for a Gen2, 2.5-10x42 NXS it would be very nice with a daylight bright reticle.
If it's an ATACR at 2-12 and 27 oz or less, I'll be a buyer. If it's an NX6? and the turrets don't lock, or they are capped, I won't be.
It’d be in for a locking turret or capped NX6 at under 25oz. To each their own though.
ATACR vs NX struggle
Me...already considering another mundane NF option that costs too much.
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Luckily for me I'm in the very small minority that loves the rotating eyepiece. I like to shoot dynamic comps that usually require me to carry (run with) a rifle against my chest or back for long periods of time and throw levers end up digging in. So I toss out throw levers and the full rotating eye piece allows me to just grab the whole freaking thing with my hand and start cranking it. It's a gross motor skill that's much easier for me to perform than finding a throw lever with my fingers when I'm exhausted and HR is sky high. I think the biggest issue people have with them is no lens cover. I run one only on the objective side and then you can cut a Butler Creek silicone bikini cover in half insecure it to your mouth and stretch it over your ocular lens. When you get to where you going and you release it it just sucks back up near the mount.
IF I tape the focus locking ring and don't need a lens cover (as you note), it's fine. Some areas I almost prefer no cover to get in the way, but in other situations its non-negotiable.
Rather than those 2, my biggest question would be regarding their reticle.
Nuclear bright what?
Center dot? Center crosshair? Whole reticle?
With what should be a rather visible bottom end, how much you need from it unless you've got a mismatched reticle for the power range like the Steiner 2-12x Mil.
I don’t need it for the bottom end. I run a red dot atop so the whole reticle being nuclear bright is what I’m looking for.
I only use 5.56 so I’m not dialing and with my old eyes a nuclear bright whole reticle or even just nuclear bright dots going down the elevation would be very helpful for the holds.
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I don't think any scopes have nuclear bright full reticle illumination, not sure it's even possible. Would have to ask Ilya about that.
Nightforce is probably the brightest. I have the new daylight bright Vudu 1-10 and it's bright as well. They went to diffraction grating and are lighting only the center, much brighter than previous version.
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The Vector Continental 2-12x44 just came in. Haven't gotten it to the range or really anywhere beyond just a quick look though and mounting so glass quality TBD, but initial glance seemed quite decent.
I will say, it came with a surprising amount of stuff packaged together and was really well thought out considering the price point.
Box was wrapped and sealed
Pup approved warranty! The box seemed really large for the size of the scope...
They included a convenient scope cap tool so you don't need coins (and it has a random ranging formula... So there's that I suppose).
Second scope cap. This one doesn't have the red revolution indicator in case you don't want that. Not sure I'll use it, but nice they thought to add it.
Sunshade
A set of rings. Not sure if the quality, and I'm running a cantilever mount anyhow, but another cool addition like the extra cap. (Sidenote, a throw lever either have been a really nice addition).
Comes with clear lense scope bra. You will see bubbling in a couple pictures on the bra lenses, that's just a clear protective sticker like what comes in a new phone screen.
All knobs have a nice texture, don't seem overly aggressive on first manipulation, but certainly not slippery either. I will note that the parallax was very stiff the first couple times I rotated it though, but is very smooth after that. The pull/push locking turrets lock tight but are easy to manipulate. Note the little red dot on the elevation turret; supposedly it's a revolution indicator, haven't messed with it enough to see how it works though.
Again, clear scope bra so you can shoot with it on (I'll be getting good flip caps, but this will work for the time being.)
Initial impressive are: I like it so far, for and finish is really nice considering the price. It's got a small footprint and is lighter than the RT-15 I replaced which is nice. I like some of the extras they included as well; something some of the higher tier companies could take note of (again, a magnification throw lever would have been nice).
Will update when I get some time behind it. At the price I don't expect it to be alpha glass like a S&B, Kahles or NF, but if it's in the XTR-II/LRHS or similar glass quality range I'll be very pleased.
The Vector Continental 2-12x44 just came in. Haven't gotten it to the range or really anywhere beyond just a quick look though and mounting so glass quality TBD, but initial glance seemed quite decent.
I will say, it came with a surprising amount of stuff packaged together and was really well thought out considering the price point.
Box was wrapped and sealed
Pup approved warranty! The box seemed really large for the size of the scope...
They included a convenient scope cap tool so you don't need coins (and it has a random ranging formula... So there's that I suppose).
Second scope cap. This one doesn't have the red revolution indicator in case you don't want that. Not sure I'll use it, but nice they thought to add it.
Sunshade
A set of rings. Not sure if the quality, and I'm running a cantilever mount anyhow, but another cool addition like the extra cap. (Sidenote, a throw lever either have been a really nice addition).
Comes with clear lense scope bra. You will see bubbling in a couple pictures on the bra lenses, that's just a clear protective sticker like what comes in a new phone screen.
All knobs have a nice texture, don't seem overly aggressive on first manipulation, but certainly not slippery either. I will note that the parallax was very stiff the first couple times I rotated it though, but is very smooth after that. The pull/push locking turrets lock tight but are easy to manipulate. Note the little red dot on the elevation turret; supposedly it's a revolution indicator, haven't messed with it enough to see how it works though.
Again, clear scope bra so you can shoot with it on (I'll be getting good flip caps, but this will work for the time being.)
Initial impressive are: I like it so far, for and finish is really nice considering the price. It's got a small footprint and is lighter than the RT-15 I replaced which is nice. I like some of the extras they included as well; something some of the higher tier companies could take note of (again, a magnification throw lever would have been nice).
Will update when I get some time behind it. At the price I don't expect it to be alpha glass like a S&B, Kahles or NF, but if it's in the XTR-II/LRHS or similar glass quality range I'll be very pleased.
I have the 3-18 and the 2-12. My samples the 2-12 is a much better scope, my 3-18 has much worse CA. Unsure if it’s just a quality issue or what.
S&B just is coming out with a FFP 3-18x42 Meta that looks really interesting, other than the price point.
I just bought the SFP version on sale at EuroOptic for 1,999, a grand + off. I was thinking how GREAT it would be if they made a FFP version with a good reticle. Checked their website and one is coming out, just twice the price I paid.
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Yeah I seen how much cheaper the SFP is. looks like a sweet scope, great weight. I hate the design like the NF 2.5-20 NX8 and k328i with no room between the turrets and the objective bell.I just bought the SFP version on sale at EuroOptic for 1,999, a grand + off. I was thinking how GREAT it would be if they made a FFP version with a good reticle. Checked their website and one is coming out, just twice the price I paid.
I'll be honest, I don't see anything special with the reticle, looks like another modified tree with partial illumination and will likely suffer at one end of the magnification range or the other.
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