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How long before China / Russia attack

Jigstick

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    With the country going to shit how long before China or Russia take advantage and “Red Dawn” us?
     
    Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised to wake up any morning and read that one of our cities has been hit, dont think it will be the Russians.
     
    What will be the reaction if our counter attack is to decouple?

    PS They never saw Trump coming. :)
     
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    Honestly, I wouldnt be surprised to wake up any morning and read that one of our cities has been hit, dont think it will be the Russians.
    I think we've already been hit - by china.

    People need to wake up. This whole Russian thing orchestrated by hillary was also set up to help china out as well. Just look at the number of democrats OWNED by china - among the biden.

    I know one former military friend of mine who thinks china's military capabilities are not very good even though they have Gen V fighters. I remarked but they stole most everything so it should be good. His argument is quality and training not there. I think that's a foolish perspective myself. China can build quality if they want. Furthermore, every technology they have , obama (and bush) said they wouldn't have until 2030. Hell, I bet they'll have a B-21 clone flying combat ready before we do - that's how pervasive their spying is. They are subject to near zero or zero arms treaties with either us or Russia. You can bet your butt Russia is actually scared of china too.
     
    If the space aliens don't want to land here what makes you think China and Russia would.
     
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    i dont know that Russia really has anything to gain by invading the US.

    and i dont think China physically COULD invade the US....hell, their aircraft carriers are catching fire just sitting at dock.

    not to mention, China really isnt about to go to war with its cash cow....we can fight a war without cheap chinese made shit....they cant fight a war without money.

    not to mention, after the war, anti-china sentiment, and a shift to local American manufacturing would continue to damage china for decades.
     
    China is more likely to invade Russia than us. They are in a similar position that Japan was before WWII. In dire need of raw materials to make things go. They are all over South China Sea, Indonesia and even Africa. Gobbling everything in sight from fishing to oil.

    Where did Japan go? Manchuria. With plans to go north but were stopped by the Soviet army.

    I am just of the opinion that the big chunk of eastern Russia and all the materiel is a more likely target near term. Russia/China relations have always been tenuous at best.
     
    As we have just witnessed first hand that a few infected people can collapse any country , you really don't need bombs anymore for warfare. China's test run showed complete success next step to win would be to vaccinate your people and then release another virus into the system for which no other country can fend off before causing the collapse. The beauty of it is that it appears totally natural not that its an offensive weapon directed at anyone.

    They said some 25 years ago that Chinese was the language to learn for business in the future ..... How did they know ......
     
    I’d be more concerned with Iran than China or Russia... Invasion via ICBM. But that’s just me maybe.
     
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    I'm keeping my eye on Madagascar. Don't hear about it much so who knows what sneaky stuff they're working on over there.
    They have been sinking a lot of time and resources in to Africa lately. Its totally for the betterment of Africa... (sarcasm)

    China has been attacking us for a long time if you subscribe to the theory of 4th generation warfare. We are seeing the results of what the Soviets did to is during the cold war now.
     
    I'm keeping my eye on Madagascar. Don't hear about it much so who knows what sneaky stuff they're working on over there.

    They were able to keep the Coelacanth fish secret for millions of years! What else are they hiding behind those vanilla plants?
     
    There’s no reason to invade and destroy the worlds largest economy

    As the world falls into a decades long depression...their country now has “0” export dollars.

    Nothing to gain

    It’s a lot easier to be #2 with no rules, then to be #1.
     
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    Russia is basically a mafia run country that is slowly dying due to serious population shrinkage. It has no real exports other than oil and arms. Both are very susceptible to market fluctuations. Russia would have collapsed years ago if not for its nuclear weapons. You can thank western commies for that. China by far is the biggest threat. Grab a copy of The Hundred-Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. He was a career diplomat for the US with China. Freely admits he was wrong about China for many years. China has been taking the long approach for years and believes it has a devine destiny to rule the world--and they intend too. Economically, China has been at war with us for decades. It has either stolen or bought all sorts of secret information and materials from us and has bribed its way into about every aspect of the US. Can you spell Biden (and others) class???
     
    Russia is basically a mafia run country that is slowly dying due to serious population shrinkage. It has no real exports other than oil and arms.

    Hi,

    I would suggest you broaden your knowledge base slightly.

    Russia is the largest exporter of wheat in the world. Barely over the USA right now but just 4 days ago Russia gave enough farmland to their wheat industry to be farmed that by 2022 they will be exporting 22 Billion USD in wheat. Up from their current 6.4 Billion USD.
    Russia has the fastest growing Aluminum production market in the world. Currently accounting for slightly over 10% of the worlds production.
    Russia is the 3rd largest gold exporter in the world also.

    Hence the reason China has been there so much lately!!

    In regards to Arms.....The USA largest customer which is Saudi Arabia accounts for roughly 10% of all defense sales from the USA has greatly been affected by Russia in the past 2 years. Russia has moved into the UAE and Saudi Arabia fiercely (Shit, Ras Al Khaimah is pretty controlled by the Russians).
    Saudi has setup facilities to manufacturer Russian arms and technology at a fast enough pace to cause big concerns as to whom the USA companies are going to rely on as number one customer.

    Sincerely,
    Theis
     
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    why would they risk invading when there is enough messed up stuff ( stuff to put it kindly) happening here already why risk your own people when you can just sit back and watch a country tear its self apart and pick up the pieces afterwards without any chance of reprisals just fund one side or the other if you want your hand in it like a little push sort of what like they are doing funding the blm and antifa the democrats and paying to have pro socialist thoughts pushed in schools , or hi jacking new tech and making another countries property theirs at 1/8 the cost . start attacking when did they ever stop attacking ? they controlled the media for many many years , the tv what you see buy and think now for more than 40 years they took your god out of schools while making them self the new god , hell they even took your patriotism out of your schools and hardly a march against it ever happened no uprising of the people to stop it .
     
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    I read Henry Kissinger’s book “On China”.
    The Middle Kingdom between Heaven & Earth definitely takes the long view, not in a hurry to capture the prize.
    The game we call “Go” in the West is how the Chinese perceive the world stage.
    Slight, apparently unrelated moves here and there, all over the world, over long periods of time.
    The opponents can not detect any pattern until it is too late.
     
    Hi,

    Pretty sure China has already attacked via a big ass INVITATION from the citizens of the USA when everyone decided to stop shopping the local stores and fled to walmart and such as if it was a hooker that paid you.

    As far as Russia.....Stop listening to the mainstream media.

    Sincerely,
    Theis

    You're already being subjugated through subversion through your Lib candidate Sleepy Joe, watch ride the dragon, better learn Chinese soon!
     
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    I read Henry Kissinger’s book “On China”.
    The Middle Kingdom between Heaven & Earth definitely takes the long view, not in a hurry to capture the prize.
    The game we call “Go” in the West is how the Chinese perceive the world stage.
    Slight, apparently unrelated moves here and there, all over the world, over long periods of time.
    The opponents can not detect any pattern until it is too late.
    I haven't read it. Did he mention how he's one of the main assholes responsible for the chinese threat?
     
    Theis, was not aware of that. Don't stay current with Russia but I read an article that went into how dependent they were on arms and oil. Not sure how old it was. Not too surprised about wheat but the other items were eye opening, especially the Saudi Arabia situation.
     
    Imagine a world where China released a virus onto the world or the US to tank the US economy, cause further strife among its citizens, and hurt the US dollar?? Wouldn't that be an attack???
     
    we can fight a war without cheap chinese made shit....they cant fight a war without money.

    not to mention, after the war, anti-china sentiment, and a shift to local American manufacturing would continue to damage china for decades.
    Maybe we do want a hot war with China.

    The Navy hasn't awarded these since 1945...……...it's been a long time

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    Imagine a world where China released a virus onto the world or the US to tank the US economy, cause further strife among its citizens, and hurt the US dollar?? Wouldn't that be an attack???

    And it backfire because if no one can afford to buy stuff from WalMart and the Dollar Store, how do they keep their factories humming? We're getting close to the next iPhone and there hasn't been much buzz. Which is weird since it looks like the iPhone 12 is going to have something new in it. Like a future model, either the 13 or 14, will likley not even have the firewire port. Earbuds will be bluetooth and charging done through a wireless, magnetic docking station.
     
    And it backfire because if no one can afford to buy stuff from WalMart and the Dollar Store, how do they keep their factories humming? We're getting close to the next iPhone and there hasn't been much buzz. Which is weird since it looks like the iPhone 12 is going to have something new in it. Like a future model, either the 13 or 14, will likley not even have the firewire port. Earbuds will be bluetooth and charging done through a wireless, magnetic docking station.
    Its my understanding that only 15% +- of Walmart's products come from China and that Apple is moving iPhone production to Mexico.
     
    Shit, I remember working at a Grain Co-Op in 75-76, when I was boarding-up train boxcars, for the shipment of wheat to Russia. What a hot time of the year that was. Mac
     
    Russians are mostly about their own own back yard and being left alone. Chinese are interested in making $ hence expansion worldwide via projects around Belt and Road initiative vs the US is playing socialism for MIC. having troops and basses in 177 countries expending coin and blood so Chinese can make their business in peace. No one is going to attack US and steal your woke socialists ,NFAC ,BLM,Antifa,and other sorts of turds, but its always possible US will go to war post-election just to divert folks from issues at home and go another round on MIC socialism merry-go-round..
     
    Dont be suprised if china is working some very uncoventional warfare already. There are way too many things happening with chinas finger prints all over them
     
    Russians are mostly about their own own back yard

    You mean like crushing Germany a second time? Too bad they have a military-industrial complex and you don't.

    Don't ask for ours.......
     
    You mean like crushing Germany a second time? Too bad they have a military-industrial complex and you don't.

    Don't ask for ours.......

    Crushing Germany? With what? Cheap gas exports?

    Ivan has own issues, permanent counter-insurgency/terror in Caucasus and Neocon Cabal stirring shit at their borders, US using them as the designated bogeyman for all sorts of shit.

    What kind of Koolaid have you been drinking?
     
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    And it backfire because if no one can afford to buy stuff from WalMart and the Dollar Store, how do they keep their factories humming? We're getting close to the next iPhone and there hasn't been much buzz. Which is weird since it looks like the iPhone 12 is going to have something new in it. Like a future model, either the 13 or 14, will likley not even have the firewire port. Earbuds will be bluetooth and charging done through a wireless, magnetic docking station.
    What financials are you watching? Any of them? Clearly not.

    Walmart's YoY sales are way up since the China virus hit. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/WMT/walmart/revenue

    Apple took a recent correction following their split, but they're also over two trillion dollars market cap. They were a trillion just months ago. 1 increased by 1 equals a 100% gain in value. In less than a year.

    Recession sends shoppers TO the discount stores hocking China's wares, not away. Tech and virtual connections are all the rage right now. Watch what's really happening, not what you're imagining is happening.
     
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    Yep ,while everyone and their aunt has been practicing socialism to pump up demand with free money, China has been pumping the production to fill that demand running on free money being pumped into economy.

    Folks really have some imagination just because Trump says he is going to decouple chine that doesn't mean it has been happening at any real scale.

    ''US trade deficit soars to 12-year high

    The trade deficit in July spiked 18.9 percent to $63.6 billion, the highest since July 2008 during the Great Recession, according to Commerce Department data released Thursday.

    Imports spiked $22.7 billion since June, while exports increased by just $12.6 billion.

    The deficit, which represents the difference between how much the U.S. bought from abroad and how much it sold abroad, was concentrated in goods, where the deficit rose $9.3 billion to $80.9 billion in July.

    The data showed the goods deficit with Mexico hit a record high in July, reaching $10.6 billion, while the goods deficit with China rose 11.5 percent to $31.6 billion.
     
    Hi,

    As far as Russia.....Stop listening to the mainstream media.

    Sincerely,
    Theis

    so to read between the lines, nato should be moth balled to the history books as it hasn't served a purpose since the fall of the soviet union?