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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Thanks ... that is exactly what I'm going for. I think that whole section was full of info that doesn't really exist anywhere else, so I saw it as my unique contribution to the shooting community. Ultimately, I don't have any agenda and I'm not trying to say what someone has is better or worse...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Actually, it just has to do with the rounding. On the Kahles, at 24x the eye relief was 2.83" and at 6x it was 2.56". On the chart, I only showed one decimal place, so it displayed 2.8 and 2.6. But on the actual difference, is 0.27". But the chart that shows the difference is also rounded to...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Possibly. Ultimately, I wish I had 5 scopes of each model from random retail shelves across the country. That would certainly help smooth over any sample bias. But, the 18 scopes I had totaled around $70,000. So if I got 5 of each, that would be $350,000. Even if manufacturers would lend them to...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Sorry, I didn't mean to cause confusion on this. All I meant by "appropriate eye relief" is that you had a full field of view, minimal black ring around the sight picture, and no scope shadow ... just like how you align your head behind the scope, but I did it with the camera viewfinder instead...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    I concur. I was careful to set up the camera for appropriate eye relief. And I also didn't just do this one time per scope ... I did it at least twice, and if the max magnification didn't align with what the manufacturer claimed, I actually did it 3 times, on 3 separate days, with a complete...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Thanks for the encouragement. I actually tried to design tests that were 100% repeatable, in hopes that these might become a set of standard benchmark tests. The idea is that I chould test other scopes in the future and be able to compare them back to this original set of results. That's still...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Great idea. Hadn't thought of displaying that data as a scatter chart. That might be a great way to visualize it. I might even try to create one of those "magic quadrant" diagrams like the Gartner research group produces.
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    I thought about that, but never came up with an objective way to quantify it. I noticed it on some, but couldn't think of a way to objectively measure how much or how little each scope had ... so I excluded it from my tests. I did have a 4 week peer-review period prior to the tests where A LOT...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Couldn't agree more. I'm just trying to provide whatever I can to help people make informed decisions. I'm not trying to frame this as "the definitive word" ... just a helpful, independent comparison. I'll be the first to admit that a sample size of one isn't ideal, but this is $70,000 of...
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    I'm the guy who conducted all the tests. What's the question?
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    I did test eye relief. It will be included in the next set of results (under the Ergonomics section). Essentially I'm grouping anything to do with the overall feel and experience of using the scope in that post.
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    Rifle Scopes 2014's Best Scope ShootOut

    Yes sir, it will be in the ergonomics section. I'm trying to group things in that which contribute to the experience of using the scope. How easy the turret is to use/read, weight, length, eye box, and a few other things.
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Yes sir, I appreciate that. I know its going to be a massive amount of work (honestly, already has been) ... but I'm optimistic that it'll provide new insight, or at least be interesting. If nothing else, I hope it makes it a little easier on people to do side-by-side comparison of these...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Hey, I've finished itemizing all the tests I plan to run on these scopes, and I'm really needing some feedback from you guys to help me make these tests the best they can be. This is a massive undertaking, so I want to see if anyone has ideas for how to improve upon what I'm planning to do ...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Yes sir, that is great advice. I especially like your advice about mentioning it as part of the review. That seems like a great approach to honor the manufacturer and the reader. I'd love to cover the scopes. Do you think people should be able to adjust the parallax or diopter adjustment, or...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Yes sir, I tried to talk the guys at Vortex into sending me one of the Razor HD Gen II scopes, but they only have prototypes at this point. Their R&D team thought it would still be a couple months until they were ready to release that new line of scopes, which I can respect. But I hope to run...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Ha! I'm with you ... I'd read that for sure. If you catch one let us know!
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    I'm actually not sure about the specifics of the test unit they're sending. My contact at NightForce has been in Europe for a show, and really just said he'd be willing to send me a BEAST to test for this as he was getting on the plane to leave. We didn't go over any specifics, but I believe he...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    Hey thanks, BigJimFish. I read A LOT of your stuff, and appreciate all the time and effort you put into this. We all benefit from it. I know this will be a massive amount of work, but I think it will also be enlightening. I also know I have the potential to make a few manufacturers mad, which is...
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    Rifle Scopes CAST YOUR VOTE: What's the best long-range scope?

    I couldn't agree more, and I'd be embarrassed to tell you how much time I've spent thinking about this. I really enjoy economics (although I haven't been formally trained in it), so I definitely understand exactly what you mean by selection bias. I'm committed to making the tests as objective as...