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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    we can all be so proud of smart water driking hero bigassjake and his half all day long rifle... I will sleep so much better knowing you are keeping the sheep warm in idaho...
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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    rth1800 you have your facts wrong.. sorry to say.. my original post critizes nobody only holds into question the ability for the AR platform to hold the original OPs request for a rifle that he can COUNT ON for half minute perfomance.. I then went on to what, yes, I feel is COUNT ON performance...
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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    padom well to start.. if anyone takes the time to read my post.. its agnostic and general in nature.. I bash nobodys skills nor anybodys rifles etc. I mearly state my observed opinion on the matter before being attacked... the op stated reliable accuracy under half minute 'to count on' what...
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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    nice.... so you call out my post.. and my facts.. and when I ask you to show us all your .5 all day long targets.. you know.. to prove it.. you go off on a profanity laced rant.. classy.... makes my point perfectly... oh.. and trolling a post I made in another section ( the few that I make )...
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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    bigjake83 i dont know.. show me 3 10 shot groups under a half inch and i wont call you a liar...
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    Are there any AR 15’s made that you can count on shooting half MOA

    Pwm1830 so... realistically, can an AR platform do .5MOA.. yep... but very likely not all day long. not if you are talking ES measurement that the internet likes. Now if you are talking ATC or some other measurement that allows for statistical flyers they yes.. .5 all day long might be more...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    308pirate nope.. because you are full of it... I shoot with some very excellent marksmen both civilian and military and your claim that your howa with TAC powder loads regularly cleans F Class targets is so much crap I have to wear boots to read it.. by the way.. cleaning a target means not...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    308pirate while not a constuctive post I figure I will add to it.. I bought them becasue they were advertised as cosometic issues only that would not affect performance.. I dont consider physical differences in bullet weight, shape or ogive to be just blemished but thanks for your useless...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    dgheriani thanks for sharing the addl notes.. 2750 with only 43.3 of varget is smoking.. and I thought I had a tight bore and chamber. is that magneto or optical? I have about .030 jump with my current seating depth (same as yours) and I have a palma 95 chamber which has the 175 touching...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    Here is a target using 43.7 4064 ( an accurcy load that shoots all 175 and 168 bullets from this rifle under an inch) sorted with 'shorts' on top and 'longs' on the bottom .. seated 2.172 which is 2.86ish COAL in lapua 2x winds were light at 4-6 kts and you can see the vertical and horizontal...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    SporterII not calling you out or grinding an ax .. just trying to get a better idea of your load and its repeatible accuracy. I can cherrypick a 5-6 shot group of sorted bullets but it doesnt represent the true accuracy of the box of bullets or the load since the unsorted bullets will print...
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    Nosler 175 rdf

    steves1911 I did not go that high with the varget load in lapua testing but might have to explore the high node.. I find that these bullets shoot slower than SMK for equal powder loads.. either slightly undersized or they are soft jacket.. so perhaps they will take a stiff load without pressure...
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    Nosler 175 rdf

    JC Steel you are running these pretty slow for a 25" barrel.. care to share additional info on your chamber and load I am running a 24" scheider with a palma 95 chamber and at 2.88 its still jumping about .030 and it doest group for me at all... and this rifle shoots 168 into .3 and 175SMK...
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    Nosler 175 rdf

    mike06 only if the RDF likes a jump of a country mile... becasue the ojive is way back on the bullet... although I have found that there are 2 shapes for the 308 RDF and they vary by .010.. that right 10 thou. I have measured 3 lot numbers and one lot has them mixed.. and one lot is all the...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    SporterII barrel length, chamber, jump distance to lands... so this is with sorted loads... try shooting a 10 shot group with 5 of each into the same target loaded the exact same way without chaning your seating die. .. lets see that group. I should not have to sort bullets to get 1/2 inch...
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    Nosler RDF 175gr New Lot Issue?

    FLIGHT762 that is what I found ogive varied by about 7 to 10 thou.... but if you take smaller caliber comparitors like 264 7mm 22 etc you will find that they are off by 10 thou all the way up and you will find in general that they will hit lands in the rifle by 10 thou as well.,,,
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    Nosler RDF 175gr New Lot Issue?

    ToddKS I have some 77g from way back that shot OK from AR platforms.. dont know if you are running them bolt? 24-24.2 TAC in LC brass (if varies by year) seems to print less than an inch from my 18" SPR. That load shoots even better in the less case capacity brass like winchester. there are...
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    Nosler RDF 175gr New Lot Issue?

    I think we need a public service announcement on the front page that shooters pro shop is propbably not the place for precsion shooters to go.. thier advertising blems as cosmetic only is just pure lies and bull shit
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    Darkside-Six I used the same logic when I got into the RDF. I assumed like their 175 CC they would be slightly less uniform than the SMK.. but with the published BC and using them for tactical matches more than shooting groups in FClass I figured it would be a good fit and that buying in a...
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    Nosler 175 RDF.

    Iamero you are running RDF 175s at an overall lenght of 2.79? .. you must be jumping them a mile and a half... and I bet the ogive is below the case neck in my rifle with a very short lead of only .040 .. the SMK touches the lands at 2.815 and the RDF touches lands at 2.91 . If I were to...