Yesterday I got out my S&B 5-25/H59, also my Athlon Helos G2 4-20/APRS6, both at .05 mil reticle thickness as well as the center dot, and had a tough time seeing the reticle well on lowest magnification. I couldn't see the center dots but at 6x for the H59, and 5x for the HG2 I could make it out...