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    Rifle Scopes Questions about the TA11F

    I sooooooooooo wish Trijicon (and others like Bushnell) would give more (meaningful) information on their websites. I have collected the following info by spending hours on the net scouring forums, and by emailing Trijicon myself for the first two scopes. I cannot guarantee the accuracy of...
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    LMT MWS Adopted by New Zealand

    From NZ army website:
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    Rifle Scopes Bushnell Elite Tactical 6-24x 50mm G2 Reticle

    Seems like a good price; hard to say from here. FFP, nice sharp reticule, [mine] tracks well, good to go.
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    Rifle Scopes noob question about mil/mil vs moa/moa

    I'm right handed but I 'piss' with my left hand, so it feels as if someone else is doing it. I tried that concept out at work, swinging my hammer with my left hand. Didn't work though. It still felt like I was doing the work.
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    Advanced Marksmanship Whose has the best Snipers?

    NZ has the best snipers. But only on week days because he has weekends off.
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    Rifle Scopes Glass for a .308 n00b!

    We don't know what you have on your bangstick now. Getting excited about hitting a mansize target at 300 may suggest a red-dot sight.:p I should think that anywhere from 3-12 up to about 5-25 should do you for magnification. All of the above suggestions seem pretty good. The usual advise in...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Now back to post 112 (in addition, or variation, to post 113). So I’m a sucker for punishment. :D That is entirely possible because no systems are incompatible. I could choose to use (I can’t see why I would, but I could) mm and inches together. 1 inch is 25.4 mm. Hell, I could even throw...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Now I’ll have to spoil your day Corey. The size of a .55” jelly bean can only be expressed in angular terms over a certain distance. A jelly bean is a linear measurement, like an inch or a cm. So let’s apply that formula: 0.55 / (.152 * 36) * 1000 = 100.5 yards. Well, fuck my giddy aunt. It...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Fair enough Corey. Just continue to get your head around what you are doing now and at some stage perhaps have a play with my first paragraph. Then don’t worry too much about fully understanding the formula, just plug in the numbers. Group in inches, range in inches, multiply by 1000 and out...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Damoncali, your post slipped underneath mine so I hadn’t seen it when I posted mine. Just studying it to see how you do it. So your ‘3’ is multiples of 100 yards?
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    4 / (300 * 36) * 1000 = 0.37 Divide the target size (group in this case) by the distance (must also be in inches or whatever you are using…but must be the same, so 300 yards * 36 inches in a yard), and multiply by a 1000 (that’s from that 1 in 1000 thing that defines an mrad). If you were...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Posts 114 and 115 show what seems to happen here a lot. People claiming to disagree with each other over things they probably don’t really disagree with, anywhere near as much as they like to think. It also shows another thing that happens here a lot. People talking past each other. Here’s...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    On ya Corey. It looks like you are firing 10 shot groups. Your grouping is pretty damn good. Don’t hit yourself over the head if they open up a bit at 300 and over. The slightest bit of variance in wind will do that to you. Just to clarify, in case you don’t realise it, 4” at 300 yards is still...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Good points. But for as far as that '1 inch over 100 yards' crutch in holding people back from learning the theory, the same would of course aply to metrics. One mrad is 100 mm at 100 m. An even more convenient crutch. So that might suggest that a sizeable proportion of fully metric orientated...
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    Rifle Scopes I need some direction on MILRAD vs MOA.

    Then you are back to the drawing board, and forced to use linear measurements. At the local rifle club many top-notch shooters – many of whom have been shooting since before Christ gave up building – use exactly these scopes. Most of their scopes are minute based. However, they too claim to...
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    Rifle Scopes I need some direction on MILRAD vs MOA.

    Just to clarify further. I understand that for most of you the imperial system does not hold you back from using mrads. And I am certainly not suggesting that the two are incompatible. I was merely observing that in those cases were someone DOES struggle with mrads (and not with minutes)...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Radians are metric in as much as they are SI derived. I don’t know if you are just stubbornly digging in, or if you have a limited view of what constitutes the concept of ‘metric’. Metric does not only pertain to linear measurements. It encompasses many different units of measure including...
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Sure thing. That is why I find these conversations interesting. Einstein said something along the lines of 'the more you learn, the more you know you don't know'. It is like working your way up an upside-down pyramid and looking up / exploring the next layer.
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    That's right. It is because that 1m is along the circumference of the circle. It is therefore curved. But that is totally negligible for the narrow slice of the pie within which we work.
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    Rifle Scopes understanding MILs

    Hehe, you’re on the right track there. You just got the numbers wrong. A full circle (360 degrees, or 60 x 360 = 21600 minutes) is 6283 Mrads. The military (NATO) round that off to 6400 because that makes a compass easier to use. So 90 degrees is 1600 Mrads and 180 degrees is 3200 Mrads. I...