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    I am going to give an analogy here for the Trinity. Almost always these types of things are actually the modalism heresy. Like the water being liquid, solid, gas is actually modalism. It is modalism because it is one thing taking 3 forms, and each of the three states is not fully the water in...
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    But that is not how Daniel reads. And I am not worried about the prophetic part. I want you to read it carefully and pay attention to the context. Specifically this: ““I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man, and he came to the Ancient...
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    I agree with you fully in your above post. I would just like to address the quotation you had from me about Daniel. (Unless you meant to be quoting the other guy, if so I apologize) Here I was not trying to give a whole theology about Daniel. This was part of an exchange between CaptNkm and...
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    Well good thing I am not Catholic and good thing the Catholic Church didn’t “give” us the trinity. The fact you don’t realize the Catholic Church wasn’t what we call the Catholic Church till the 1,000s shows you do not understand history, yet we are supposed to trust you in your assessment of...
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    No I am not scared to say Jesus name. I do it everyday when I pray to the Father in the name of Jesus, just like Jesus modeled for us. It is very ignorant of you to say that we will deny Jesus as the messiah, as a Trinitarian view actually has a true and fuller understanding of who Jesus is...
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    No sorry the church has never understood it that way and Jesus doesn’t say that. For 2000 years it has been understood as I have said. The burden of proof is on you to prove otherwise. Nowhere in the text of Matthew does it say or allude to that. Maybe it’s as simple as Jesus meant what he said
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    It matters because Jesus is very clearly giving us the formula for the trinity; three distinct persons that are yet the same God. That’s why the singular word name is used. That is how the church has always understood it. And there is nothing in the text that even suggests that Jesus is making...
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    Nope not what I said. God clearly shows both things, being baptized in Jesus name and being Baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Spirit. (One was Jesus words, and the other wasn’t so there is that) He does not care which ways you do it because it’s not some magic incantation that doesn’t...
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    Dude go back and catch up from the last time you were here. This has been covered. Jesus is not making some vailed allusion to baptizing in his name.
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    You are completely misquoting and mischaracterizing what I said. Additionally you completely overlooked what I said above I’ll say it again. Works are the fruit of faith, not the root of faith. True faith produces fruit, but they do not save us. As James talked about a faith without works is...
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    Well on thin about what Peter says in Acts when he says be baptized for the forgiveness of sins. The word “for” (eis in Greek) can be transactional, like I’ll give you $20 for that box of ammo. But it can also be used in a non transactional way. For example, have you ever done anything “for”...
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    “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭16‬:‭16 ESV Not believing is what condemns us. Jesus doesn’t say those who don’t get baptized and those that don’t believe are condemned. He says only those that don’t believe are...
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    That is because they did not know of Jesus and what he did, they did not know the gospel. This is an important part 4”And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.” They had not come to the...
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    Baptism doesn’t save you, Grace through faith and not of works saves you. So no matter how you are baptized, if you think that just getting baptized makes you all good and don’t have faith, no you will not be saved. Baptism is not some magic thing you to gain salvation
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    No because baptism doesn’t involve some magic incantation that must be said correctly in order to work. Simon the sorcerer was chastised for thinking something similar. We use God’s name as reverence and as a confession, but the exact wording isn’t what is important. Remember baptism is an...
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    You maybe simple, but God is not. Why would you assume you could fully grasp God. If you are sincerely interested there is like 5 pages of this discussion. Start back on pages 11 or so
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    Dude you are missing the point he is using a singular noun and plural names in order to show they are distinct persons, but one being. This has been the understanding for 2000 years
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    uh yeah the fact that Jesus says in the name of the father, son, and spirt. That has been the long held belief for 2000 years. The burden of proof otherwise is on the oneness people, and there is no textual evidence to support that it is a vailed illusion by Jesus
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    Yes Jesus and the apostles make Trinitarian references all over the place. Additionally the apostolic fathers (the guys right after the apostles, though not inspired) used the same Trinitarian language. Paul himself starts letters with The Father and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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