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  1. SmokyJoe

    Forster 6.5 PRC Sizing Dies

    Just got word from Midsouth that Forster 6.5 PRC FL sizing die is in stock. Forster 6.5 PRC FL Sizing Die 005349
  2. SmokyJoe

    SOLD WTS KE Arms T1 Mount-Beretta 1301 Comp

    TTT
  3. SmokyJoe

    SOLD WTS KE Arms T1 Mount-Beretta 1301 Comp

    WTS a few extra items, all are new, never mounted. Prices are shipped and are firm. Payment via Paypal or USPS MO. Sorry, no trades. First to post or PM “I’ll take it” gets it. KE Arms Aimpoint T1/T2 or H1/H2 Mount for Beretta 1301 Comp or 1301 Comp Pro. Does not fit 1301 Tactical -...
  4. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    How about a 🍩 !
  5. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    OK, here’s what is probably happening. First off, this here is Kentucky brass. This is not some namby pamby brass. It is strong in the shoulder. When I push the .262 mandrel through, the neck expands and stays at .262. The shoulder neck junction, which is stout and strong like Kentucky...
  6. SmokyJoe

    6.5 PRC W/Barnes 127 LRX Velocity Question

    Not exactly the 127, but with the 124gr Hunter Hammer solid in a 24” barrel I am getting 3188fps with 60gr VV V565; ADG brass
  7. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    I wish it were that simple. This is the first thing I checked. I can set an empty case in the Forster press, rotate the ram through the full sequence, and the die does not contact the case mouth. I also thought the seating stem might be kicking the bullet off center enough to bind up and create...
  8. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    Sounds good. I ordered a couple of mandrels from 21st Century - 0.2625 and 0.263. I already have an expander that is 0.2635. Also 10 pin gauges to check diameter after springback if any. I’ve not run into this issue with Lapua brass, so I also pre-ordered 100ct of their 6.5 PRC brass coming out...
  9. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    Pin gauges and mandrels inbound.
  10. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    OK, looking at the potential variables again, I am coming up with bullets that are 0.2645”; last batch was 0.264”, Mandrel is same size 0.262” Cutaway of the brass shows a very slightly constricted ring inside at the bottom of the neck. Maybe that all adds up to too much neck tension. Doing the...
  11. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    Maybe the mandrel is scraping/shoving brass down the neck? Or changing case length enough to slightly compress the neck at the shoulder?
  12. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    I should have been more clear about the two cases shown. The one on the left is not fully seated. I stopped seating that one when resistance increased. Even though I stopped, the shoulder/case junction had started to bulge outward. You can see the slight curvature in the photo. Regarding the...
  13. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    I ran a piece from the first box through the AMP annealer Aztec mode and got a code of 6819. This is once fired brass. Ran a piece from the second box (unfired) through and got a code of 7989. Not sure what the delta signifies, especially since one is fired. I will cut a few pieces to have a...
  14. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    You are right, the mandrel should push it out. The fact that it didn’t, after two passes with the mandrel, has me thinking that maybe the brass is too hard. No sizing die was used. Also, I always use dry lube. The bullets I was loading were coated with hBN and I dust the inside of the necks...
  15. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    That could work, and I do have an expander mandrel from back when I used to do some neck turning. The resultant may be that the majority of neck tension would be concentrated where the rim is. And what happens with that extra rim of brass at the base of the neck over several firings? The...
  16. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    ADG annealed it as new brass. This batch was what they call ‘Bright’ meaning they clean the annealing discoloration off before shipping. Right...by new I meant unfired. It’s not been put through a sizing die by me. I’ve only run the mandrel through and trimmed/chamfered it. I’ve used this...
  17. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    Remember, this is new brass. I’ve not sized it. All I’ve done is run a 0.262 mandrel through it, noting that the mandrel was hard to push through the bottom of the neck. Then when I tried to seat a bullet, it was difficult to fully seat, crushing the case when pushed past the bottom of the neck...
  18. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    That first box was so perfect. It just seems more likely that they know what they are doing compared to me not knowing the best way to resolve this. Probably not a bad idea to mail it in to get their guidance. Thanks to all for your input.
  19. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    0.262” Same mandrel I used to prep/load the first box of brass without issue. I thought the same, the mandrel will get everything opened up just right. But that raised internal rim you can see in the second photo springs back more than the rest of the neck. There was definitely more resistance...
  20. SmokyJoe

    Internal Donut on new brass?

    I’ve checked the seating die to make sure it is not interfering with the case and it is not. The crushed case is from too much seating resistance. Checked bullet diameter and it is typical Berger perfection at 0.264”
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