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    Inconsistent seating depth

    I usually do that. But since I was running the carbide mandrel I decided to skip this step. btw, are you cleaning the inside of the neck before seating bullets in this case or you leave the graphite inside?
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    Inconsistent seating depth

    1. I use standard 21 Century carbide mandrel for 6.5 mm cartridge, not oversized or undersized. the standard one. 2. I size 3/4 of the neck because more experience f-class colleagues say that get better results if the size only portion of the neck. 3. Yes, the brass is the weak point of the...
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    Inconsistent seating depth

    I am based in Europe. I would wait for my Forster die to send back about 6 months. Otherwise, it's a good idea.
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    Inconsistent seating depth

    my bad- .297.
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    Inconsistent seating depth

    It was main purpose of this excercise- to use 2 different set of dies. The necks were .285 and .287 respectively.
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    Inconsistent seating depth

    Today, I came across the following problem. I was preparing two control sets of bullets in 6.5 CM consisting of 11 bullets each: (Group no. 1) Lapua brass: (1)shoulders bumped 2 thau with Redding body die, then (2) 3/4 of the neck sized with Redding Competition neck sizing die using .290...
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    @ceekay1 would you mind describing your process step by step? which dies do you use for sizing and in which sequence?
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    The group no. 2 seems a bit better. However process no. 2 is the way to go only if you have the same headspace. I measured the brass- I have 10 pieces of fireformed brass shot in group no.2 which has different headspace of about 2 thau within the group. So, will have to bump the shoulders with a...
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    I did some testing today. 28 degrees Celsius (60-90s pause between shots), 100m (didn't have time to drive to a 300m range today, sorry), F-class bipod, SEB rear bag. 10-shot groups. Group no. 1 and no. 2 have the same seating depth, the same powder charge, the same bullet, Lapua brass fired 2...
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    Yes Sir, that's the line of thinking I am sympathetic to. I posted here in another thread a line about fireformed brass fitting my chamber and neck only sizing and then (as expected) I got a link to Erik Cortina's youtube in return.
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    I stopped FL sizing after every firing. I do neck size and don't even bump the shoulders if a round chambers correctly.
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    This was my assumption- if you align your process according to the guidelines of experienced benchrest shooters, you might have a chance to move up in the ranking of F-class or PRS (I am shooting distances up to 800m- 300/600/800, sometimes 300/400/500). I look at top 10 guys I am competing with...
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    Can you send a link to this book? I cannot find it on amazon.
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    Thanks for your input. It slowly reaches me- arbor press is inevitable as LE Wilson dies are. Could you elaborate on "proper bumping the shoulders"? I measured today my fired brass and FL sized brass and I think the difference is 4 thau (most people say- make it 2 thau). Does it really matter as...
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    This is my point. The problem is I don't know any benchrest shooter. I know a dozen of f-class guys, PRS guys. In Europe benchrest is really rara avis. I am wondering what a good benchrest shooter would say looking at my reloading routine. I assume he would point out missing: 1. measuring volume...
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    Reloading for Benchrest

    The road up and the road down is one and the same. However not all roads are the same. If I was reloading for PRS I kept my process simply, I avoided adding additional steps in the process. provided I got my minimum acceptable accuracy. However, in benchrest we are looking at smallest group...
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    yes. I measured the neck thickness and did the math.
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    Forster FL sizing die does not use bushings the way Redding does. If you look at the process from your perspective- do you think that separating those 2 steps (neck sizing and bumping the shoulders) provides more consistency?
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    I am also fan of Cortina's funny attitude. However, I won't buy his tuner:). @sjmpcc022 it's true what you say, but it's slightly off-topic. We are not discussing consistency here. Both processes are consistent and repeatable. The question I pose is whether with the process no. 2 one can...
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    Neck tension-what's next?

    I plan to do that. I used the carbide mandrel in the process no. 1. I think I will run the mandrel after neck sizing with .290 bushing. This will be added step to my process no. 2. In my other caliber (6 BR) I use Forster bushing bump die. It bumps the shoulder and neck sizes in one step. After...