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    In addition to God’s name being YHWH, the KJV version you used renders that word secret incorrectly . פִּלְאִי The Hebrew word is actually rendered wonderful, incomprehensible, extraordinary.
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    Hmm interesting that someone would make a theological claim that is not anywhere in scripture and call it a perspective, yet aggressively deny the trinity which is a theological term that came about to convey the truths we see in scripture. You are not being theologically consistent
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    Sorry but this is wrong and it can be shown easily. The one true God is named in the OT and his name is YHWH. The angle of the LORD is actually the angle of YHWH (we render it as LORD in English)
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    And where are you getting this from? I do not see this anywhere in scripture
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    Want to address my original post below? Or how about anything that came two pages prior Let me preface this with the fact I am not a Catholic, but a Bible believing Christian. He is probably a Oneness Pentecostal or Apostolic. Either way his heresy is modalism and was condemned at Nicaea in...
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    Ok first your statement of “When essentially all Christians who wouldn't get with obedience to the Church of Rome were hunted down and genocided” is categorically false. There was the eastern church and Alexandrian and Antiochian theology grew up together. There was no genocide. The churches...
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    What is laughable is you would use that to then justify your belief that 1800 years later God decided to give further revelation to a polygamist cult leader. What’s even more laughable is that you would then us that to believe said cult leader found some gold tables and urim and thummim from...
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    Yeah they don’t know what to do with that or with the Angle of YHWH (LORD). The trinity has its roots even in ancient Judaism. In fact the Jewish teaching of the Two Powers in Heaven was prominent in Judaism until Jesus. The Jewish leaders outlawed it after Jesus since it supported what he said...
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    I think you are missing my point. I agree the Christian faith is monotheistic. However that term is not used in scripture. Rather we developed that term to convey the theological truths about God we see in scripture. The same is true for the trinity. That specific term isn’t in scripture, but we...
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    I’ll say this again These roles and relationships are what we see directly in the scriptures and shows the relational differences we see between the Father, Son, and Spirit. Since the scriptures affirm all 3 are God, yet all three have different functions and different relationships to each...
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    Right it says YHWH is one. It doesn’t say monotheism, however we would say our faith is monotheistic. We do this all the time, we assign categorical terms to theological truths we see in scripture. The term Trinity is the same thing. That is the summation of your argument. Because it doesn’t...
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    Neither is monotheism. I have never read that in the Bible. Does that mean that Christianity isn’t monotheistic?
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    As I said, they are not canon. What I am illustrating is Trinitarian thought existed in the early church. That is presented to refute your claim that the trinity was created at Nicea. History shows it was not. Additionally there are many scriptures that show Trinitarianism. That was not the...
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    Also here are teachings about the nature of God from pre-nicean and apostolic fathers (the guys who learned directly from the apostles) God was understood as one divine nature in 3 distinct persons well before Nicea. Their teachings are not canon, but show Trinitarian though in the early church...
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    No sorry it did not the Bible and church history shows that it did not. The WORD trinity was codified at Nicea, but the teaching and aspects of the trinity is in the NT and in early Christian teachings. Again you do not understand history. I said this before but I will say it again. First, you...
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    This statement leads me to believe that you do not understand church history or historical theology. Nowhere do I or what you might call nicene fathers embrace the writings or ideas of Constantine. Constantine was the emperor and called the bishops from across the Christian faith to come...
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    Don’t worry I don’t need a Mormon elder to “explain” anything to me (the actual brainwashing). I have a Masters of Divinity and Doctoral work. I have studied these topics, read much literature (to include Mormon literature), and written pages and pages about it. There is no such thing as the...
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    Actually no I am not a Baptist or Methodist, and the critique of Mormonism is not unique to just baptists or Methodists. Rather all biblically based denominations and the church throughout time are critical of Mormonism and Mormon adjacent beliefs. You are being dismissive of the fact that every...
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    Also you missed one key point of baptism. Yes it represents our death when we go into the waters, but it also represents our resurrection when we come out of the waters. It is symbolism tied to Jesus death and resurrection. Just as Jesus’ body died and was resurrected, so too will ours. Also...
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    2 Peter 1:4 speaks of believers becoming "partakers of the divine nature" through God's promises. We are partakers of the divine nature, not in the sense of becoming literally God, but in becoming more like God in character and way of life. But we are partaking in that Divine nature/substance of...
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