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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    No , I made and used tuners from manufacturers for my research and competitions and made a few for friends. But tuners are only a small part of the research I do . If you would like I will post pictures of some of different muzzle tuning systems Tomorrow .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Simple ,because I know what pattern I am adjusting and the tuner by trimming which does the same thing as moving a weight rearward and shooting , specifically weighted tuner/ brake no more adjustments are needed once tuned due to the width of the window where group size does not change. That...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Dan the winner was a great shooter and had a great gun [416 Barrett] . I was shooting a 300 win mag. premiering my tuning technology.
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Because Robert is a great shooter and had a fabulous gun to boot. No one says you have to use a tuner to win . It is just a tool.
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Every rifle was tuned the same way and you know it ,you were told this at the clubhouse when we first met. Specifically weighted by adjusting until tuned .pretty simple . Everybody knows that at the matches lol.
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    If it will put the gun out of tune then it will put the gun in to tune . Why did he stop at the out of tune setting?
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    T= Great point camel !!!!! and the most crucial part . no truer words out there. That is why test premise is suspect , if he had used factory ammo then the test was easy to see the tuner work in fact shoot better with a tuner and now the results are completely reversed even statistically.Then...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    I will inform all of the tuner manufacturers about this thread and they can defend their statements .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Again your making the statement fit your agenda, what it states is a tuner allows you to fine tune on the fly which can be beneficial to tuning because it is a more of a fine tune .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Where does it say then without ? It just states it will tune the rifle . You are putting words in that are not there.
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    The ATS statement is true meaning you can tune to the maximum potential of that system no where does it say it will be better . no , I am just explaining what they mean . You are interpreting incorrectly, i have talked in length with the manufacturers about this very subject. You can not just...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    May be so,but this was the quote he used and is what is advertised. Regardless of what he said theories are abound but Erik understands more than you think about tuners and more so now so his mind can always be changed when new data comes up . So basically you have two ways to tune, You can tune...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    How is that saying the gun will shoot better than it would without the tuner? . Any tuner will tune it but not better than it would without a tuner . He is just saying it will tune your gun MATCHING the tune that it would without a tuner. I can do that all day long but not better the tune with...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Again the test was awesome but it was simply applied with a wrong premise .Come on, use your common sense . How are you going to get a tuner to make your gun shoot better than it would without a tuner ? A tuner will put it back in tune when it goes out of tune but very rarely will it make the...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Don’t care troll
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    What I do is internal ballistics . And what I have done is give you facts . I would say you have contributed nothing . Good for you!!!!!
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    I will say this , I am not here to attack Bryan or statistical analysis, I am just defending what I do . It is clear these guys will never agree . So be it but no matter what anyone says I will not back down, because it is truth and eventually everybody will learn that . If they don’t that’s...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    The major problem and is why everybody is mad is the premise of the test . To say a tuner should make the gun shoot better than without is an impossible task and guaranteed to fail . I think most are looking at this differently than most who have used tuners for years . When someone no...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Don’t forget the most important , post transonic BC .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    The DOD style reference was not just made up , give me a break here . This comes from heads at the military. .Again look at the thread where Buford states the functions and capabilities of the 89, and Oehler has publications on the 89 and videos as well. I used the 89 for finding the effects of...
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