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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    My source is Oehler , and my own experiences. There is a thread on the field testing forum with Buford Boone , a well known expert in ballistics .DOD style Doppler is different from what the public uses . The DOD style is much bigger ,and can go out to 8 miles or farther and uses triangulation...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    I need to look at my tests but I am checking velocity drop from muzzle to target . There was a 16 FPS more velocity drop at the target at 100 yards with a dirty brake ,that is huge . Also could not hit the targets at extreme ranges . So there is a drop in BC but also a random dispersion due to...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    It has been tested side by side to Doppler with the same results .and about 150,000 cheaper , and have cited things the 89 can measure that the Doppler can not . That is all I am saying.At 3500.00 it is not a just a chronograph .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    You You can also add muzzle blast and CG offset influence on BC variation . just recently learned this via oehler 89. But it is relative as a whole meaning the measuring of BC whether TOF or velocity change over a given distance there is always going to be disagreements on which Method is...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Wrong again . It is just as good as any radar.Actually better just because it will measure well beyond transonic , a radar just guesses after 2500 yards .
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Where do you come up with this Doppler stuff ? You are wrong but you say it will measure all of what ? POI? No , instability at the muzzle ? No , beyond transonic ? No . It is obvious you have never used Doppler . The 89 does that . Then you say I used a regular chronograph ? Really , dude you...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    Spot on . I see shooters outshooting their expected vertical all of the time . What I really find distressing is this rigorous statistical analysis of Litz that everybody is defending shows a tuner can put a gun out of tune. Well if it can put a gun out of tune why would he say it does not work...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    I do but these test were done back in 2001-2008 with multiple guns and barrels in Competition and practice and test sessions . Only to prove viability over long term in competition.They were also combined with other technologies that I can not disclose . I am sorry but what I can do is to give...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    I Understand what your saying and do agree but I am different from a normal shooter as I have done internal ballistics studies as well as tuners for 20 years or so , and do large shot samples no matter what anyone thinks . I am only giving my data to help shooters learn how to use a tuner ...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    If you are speaking of positive compensation I have proved it many times and it was simple . Your the one saying it has not been proven , just because you have not seen the testing , as far as tuners go , watch the video and do your own testing , everybody else is testing . These methods are...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    You know I just have to giggle at tokay and Rio . You guys are arguing something you still do not understand . One thing you will learn eventually is that your arguing against the truth . . Once this is out longer and more people try it which is happening as we speak then you are going to...
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    Barrel Tuners and Bryan Litz’s vol. 3

    No sir , not true . What I have said is that tune or groups will not change with a given window of 200 fps . Look at the video 1:40 and you might get it right . Never said all velocities hit the same height . Get your facts straight .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    Actually is closer to 200 fps. Meaning it is compensated within a window of a specific rate .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    Troll lol. Just like 10,000 dollars reward right ? Just showing how to apply the poi to velocity.
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    I firmly believe in statistics but all after the rifles are set up . Never said to not use statistics . But not going to preach redundantly .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    When you relate each shot poi to velocity you can learn a lot . You should try it some day . let’s say if you watch 1500 yd groups form on every shot , the ES is 9 fps , not saying that is that way after 20 shots . But in that group the es was 23 The vertical in the group measured 5 inches ...
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    It applies only to those particular shots . Get over it .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    That’s just it , you don’t know that you just claim you do . To claim SD or ES within a given amount of shots is plausible . Get over it . If they say within 100 shots well yea but he didn’t say the amount of shots that determined that .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    Did it ever occur to you the he was touting 2 SD with those given shots applied at the target .
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    Group size goes small to large and back to small

    Uh no I am not . You just want to attack any one wanting info while hiding behind your fake name. Troll.
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