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It also isn't exactly difficult to get uf wp tubes there.

Ive had plenty of messed up stuff in factory sealed boxes with QC handwritten initials on it.

Sooo...about that 4mm thick tube being super tough...

Wow. Im sorry, OP. I was considering this very optic, but will be keeping my nx8, instead. US support, and it works fine.

Yeah, 77TMK/OTM that frags will do wonders. To me, dead is dead, and the wounding I get from 70gr TSX is more than sufficient. Couple that with it shooting 1.5-1.8moa out of my guns, I tend to like it. It clocks 2545fps out of my 11.5.

I typically find that deer I shoot with a 5.56 either drop like a sack of bricks, or run 75-125m, depending on the terrain. Open ground, about 125m. They drop if the bullet passes anywhere near the spine. They run if lung/heart shot.

I typically hunt deer with my 5.56 SBR.

I found myself curious, so I fired 4 ten shot groups, consecutively (letting the weapon cool, though), yesterday with mk318 mod 0 sost. I changed my position behind the gun for one of the groups, and you can see it shifted left and shows a bit of vertical movement...no butterfly shots here...

I shot a doe which I estimate at 100-120# on the hoof. The shot was taken with an 11.5" 5.56 SBR, suppressed. The distance was 90m. The deer ran 125m and promptly expired. At the impact site there was foamy blood with chunks (lung tissue). Within about 20 feet of where the deer lay, there was...

The IR is for designation when hunting in groups.

Digital.

Maybe run SWIR if you can get your hands on a MAWL CLAD.

What tubes are you running? Im using Supergain tubes with high specs and yeah, dark multi canopy on moonless nights, it wont work a miracle, but if you're using photonis echo, have you considered upgrading and going fully passive?

So I gave up 3oz weight savings, and added 1.5" in length and reduced from 10 to 8x in exchange for the color of my choice and a more fielded/tested product with a less finicky eyebox and brighter illumination, and not having to sell a rifle in the equation, is pretty much what I'm hearing? I...

Man...now I don't even know what to think. My whole life might be a lie.

What does it ACTUALLY weigh? I know the weight is published, but I've never had an optic that was close to published weight, lol! My ATACR was about 23oz for example, as I recall, with just the OEM scope caps. Also, how's optical properties vs the ATACR and eyebox?

I have nx8 and atacr. The nx8 has very short depth of field, compared to atacr. 1x is comparable on both. Eyebox makes the nx8 easier to use on 1x, and especially 8x. Glass quality and light gathering are impressive on the nx8 for its size, par for the atacr, at its. Clarity due to depth of...

Im curious if you could compare eyebox like I did here:

From what I gathered, the Vortex sacrifices eyebox on the altar of footprint. Durability/Reliability remain speculative.

What about it is so excellent?