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I've enjoyed reading through this thread. Thank you. Just got me that we all want our scopes to do everything. I think sometimes its the case of too much research off the net and losing the point. I'm as bad as anyone else, but I usually get there in the end. Match the scale of scope to the...

The mirage shimmer is the physical movement of air. The dust and moisture make it more prominent. With the proliferation of moderators the heat haze of them from rapid shots is the same thing, just very close. The very best coatings can help see through and cope, but doesn't change the air flow...

It will be my 2017/18 project rifle so I might have to look at 34mm rings as thats where it is all going. Reticules are aways interesting. I love my Zeiss and Swaro for their forgiving eyebox's. Something Jap and US optics don't always get as forgiving. The T3 A1 isn't some heavyweight, a...

I have always thought the S&B H2CMR a great reticule which can be fast but also give more than just a plex. So I am a click SFP rifle shot. Game shooting point blank, varmint shooting click, and range shooting click again. I used to do Service Rifle too, AFSAM, all ranges and fast targetry...

Many thanks, I'll check it out. That or a Sightron, or something else???

My SFP scopes are Zeiss and Swaro's. 30mm because I have spare a full set of NF Picatinney mounts and shame to go to waste. The T3 A1 isn't the heaviest rifle but sure you could bolt on just about anything. Should think a 30mm tube would be big enough to do enough. I can see the T3 A1...

I really fancy getting one of these Tikkas. Most of my scopes are SFP, so I thought I would do something different for once. So what FFP scope would you match to this rifle combo. It needs to meet the full potential of this rifle combo to say 1000m. Most of the action is fox to 500m and then...

Sorry no, not enough to comment. March do several models. As with all this kit you need to look through them and compare. I know Zeiss and Swaro are the ones to beat. Most scopes may be great on the range but fall short eyebox wise. Its when under pressure you find people searching to see...

Last word on this as you know where I stand. Eyebox: what works on a range has little bearing in the field. A forgiving eyebox where you don't have to have your eye perfectly aligned both eye relief wise and centrally is probably the most overlooked feature when buying a hunting scope. A...

The European makers have the best glass because they do most of their shooting at dawn or dusk. Swarovski z6 is tops closely followed by Zeiss Victory. They are a class above anything else period. The picture is my culling rifle with a Zeiss Victory 5-25x56 with illuminated 60 reticule (best...

+1 for Swarovski; Zeiss good too. Depends what your eyes are not seeing. What pops for one person doesn't mean it will for another. Get yourself on a range with a selection of scopes club shoot, and look through all the makes.

Lowlight, you summed up FFP scopes perfectly. Its not the scopes problem but how I could utilise its features with the type of shooting I am limited too; its my problem. The point that FFP's with higher mag aren't really intended for low mag use is what I always thought too. Its not a fault...

Sounds like a very good and challenging shoot. Should test anyone, and any kit, as its too difficult if you haven't got it all together.... which is the point. You will have to excuse me because I don't even know what you are calling it all. UKD?? all new to me. Suppose I should have read it...

MJY65, I completely agree with you. In my younger days I had to fight the system all too often to get "more realistic'" shooting practices. Fortunately, my military was quite open to this and we put together some interesting exercises. Many are now standard practices. I started with a Lee...

kombayotch, sums it up well. The Military do do open ranges, and one or two have been opened up for civilian use; certainly there is a plate shoot in the hills of Wales. Hunting wise generally its all within Point Blank where the Stalk is more important and it would be frowned upon to take...

Once shooters would take points of aim off the target. Mildot made it possible to take points of aim off the reticule. Hurus has taken that to the extreme. For FFP reticules its a compromise to how much sight picture you fill with dots and hashes and how much centre of the picture you can...

The thread has gone on several tangents, like so many shooting conversations do. Just like it would over a beer. You answered my question yonks ago. "Convince" is just the way we say it; remember American English is different to British English, I'm pleased you got Piers Morgan sacked.. we...

Each Country has their own take on these classic Service Rifle Matches. I know the British one is pretty useful. These shoots were once shot with battle iron sights. Now its done by the services with issue battle optics, and the scoring area reduced. Basics sure but also done to a level to...

Yes they do share a common ancestry. Glorified target matches is being a little disingenuous. Be it green troops or experienced troops these type of matches reinforce good basic marksmanship skills that can then be taken to live fire open ranges. The top guys doing this stuff are pretty tuned...

kombayotch is pretty spot on especially that of the range systems used. I would say in defence that the Service Rifle Championships for the Service Rifle Queens Medals Competition is a pretty comprehensive marksmanship shoot. 300-500 competitors, something like 400plus rounds course of fire...