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Agree, it's a wealth of information and a great group overall. Out of curiosity what did you end up going with?

I have been a member at Mifflin for 6-7 years. I went once on a weekend and that was the last time for that. During the week it is most often pretty slow, never once had to wait on a bench. Several times I spent the whole day there without seeing a single other person. I like the club and its...

Thank you for the clarification on these concerns. I did move the focus and diopters early on when removing the covers. Seems to be a better now being really careful. Still wish they were a bit stiffer though. I haven't seen a single star since I got the goggles with the lousy weather in...

Optics planet was running a special for about $9100. Their unit did not have the adjustable diopters though so that adds 5-600. Like I said earlier though I canceled that order and went with Apollo.

Do the civi vcsel units like the mawl and raid xe have illuminators that are on par with the full power units? Bhenske, did you get the civi mawl or FP?

I hear what you’re saying, but I’ve become anti China on many levels. Used to go there for work pre covid. Saw enough.

Forgot the most important part. Thanks again to everyone in the community who has shared their knowledge and advice!

Ok fellas, just an update on the progess. PVS-31d has arrived via Apollo Optics. Ryan was excellent to deal with and I highly recommend. Strictly Offensive Kit is in the process of getting me a Voodoo s. Preston and Joe have been an absolute wealth of knowledge. Hopefully it arrives soon! I went...

Ok, so i've had the goggles for 2 days and have about 2 hours on them between getting them set up and trying them in different lighting and environments. This is the first night vision device i've ever had or possibly even looked through so take this for what it's worth. First impressions are...

Absolutely, that was one of the reasons. They wouldn't even tell me what the specs were.

So I ended up canceling the order from Optics Planet for a few reasons and ended up ordering the last set from Apollo Optics. Ryan has been great to deal with thus far. The Goggles should be in tomorrow, and I'm really looking forward to trying them out. Will report back once I get to give them...

Will do!

Well I pulled the trigger on some pvs-31d today at optics planet. Last pair they had in stock. Thanks for all the help and great info along the way!

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These are all good points and a lot of great info. Appreciate the help fellas.

I also read the 31d housing and optics are actually made in Cypress by a company called Theon. Not sure I love that either.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’m not seeing anything from the Horta above in this thread. Am I missing something? I agree he seems like the yoda of NV/thermal around here. Also, my primary area of operations is going to be dark woods. Would that change the balance to favor filmless or even...

Any update on which of these 31s is better over the last couple years? Considering both and looking to be swayed to one vs the other. How do the quality and service of both companies compare? Like the added features of the 31D. Like the simplicity and lighter weigh of the 31A. I'm much more...

Thanks for the reply gr8fuldoug. I'm not sure where Pulsar fits in the mix of thermals, but I don't believe they are military grade. I am going with a VooDoo S for the thermal. It's a very impressive device by all accounts and Strictly Offensive Kit is hooking me up. Still leaning towards either...

Wow guys! What great info! Really appreciate the time you took for this response wigwamitus. Thanks a bunch! Ok I’m now in the voodoo s camp. If I did do a PVS-14 and VDS what helmet setup is recommended? I think I’d want something articulating? I believe you are saying the dbal d2 is not...