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  1. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Re: Miller stability I will deffenitely get Litz's book on the way. Also it's very interesting what you say about bullet shape and subsonic flight. I've never been too impressed with Berger VLD's at 1000 yards with a 223, they just never would group as well as SMK's. Possibly that's the...
  2. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Re: Miller stability KYpatriot that is one of the most informative wire ups I have seen on the subject! "Ballistic" does indeed provide different Miller numbers depending on velocity and atmosphere. And Fred C Dobbs experiment seems to prove that bullet shape or rifling contact really has...
  3. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Re: Miller stability Also Fred C Dobbs question still seems to remain concerning the miller formula. I wonder if it does rely solely on a standardized shape? A Barnes 70 is far longer and has more rifling contact than even a 77 SMK. I suppose it all boils down to live testing, but that sure...
  4. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Re: Miller stability JBM forgive the misunderstanding, I saw that "Ballistic FTE" USES your calculator Thanks guys for all the excellent information, thats exactly what I needed. So it appears that my 1-9 twist barrel will shoot 77SMK's as well mathematically as it does on paper lol If I...
  5. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Re: Miller stability Well I'm not a mathematician so no...... I don't need to find my twist rate I want to know what the end computation of JBM means. Is it good? Is it unstable? I'm really not great with math I'm just wondering if anyone uses this or what it translates to...
  6. J

    Range Report Miller stability

    Ok so I use jbm's ballistic FTE, which is always dead on. But can someone explain to me what the Miller stability numbers mean?? I know who he is, what the formula is intended to determine and all that. But I can't find an actual explanation of the calculated "Miller Stability" numbers on the...
  7. J

    Rifle Scopes Leupold CQ/T or VX-R patrol SPR?

    Re: Leupold CQ/T or VX-R patrol SPR? Or any other great reccomendations guys, would love a mil mil or moa moa setup in that pricerange.
  8. J

    Rifle Scopes Leupold CQ/T or VX-R patrol SPR?

    Hey guys, looking for someone who has shot with both, I'm thinking about selling my Leupold Mark lV CQ/T and putting on a VX-R 1-4 or maybe 3-9. I'm mainly looking for more power, and something that I can shoot longer distance with. The dot/circle reticle is awesome, but there is no verticle...
  9. J

    Night Vision 1st gen or laser genetics?

    Re: 1st gen or laser genetics? cj7hawk, thanks for your reply. I figured thats about all the laser genetics was, as I have never used one. I would prefer good gen 3 night/day NV, but I cant find anything for under 1800, a little steep for me. Any particular brand/model recommended for under...
  10. J

    Night Vision 1st gen or laser genetics?

    Okay guys, I know this is probably like asking what is the lesser of two evils here, but I need advice! I desperately need some form of illumination or NV just for coyotes and such around the farm. Out to 100 yd would be nice, or farther. If I could afford a gen 3 I would go for it, but I can...
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