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    Suppressors Trust question

    Re: Trust question <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">On my trust, I am the sole Trustee and my brother is the Beneficiary. IF I wanted to add my brother as a Co-Trustee and add someone else as a Beneficiary...
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    Suppressors Trust question

    Re: Trust question Ethically, I can't give you legal advise via this kind of forum, but hypothetically, if you executed a revocable living trust and retained the rights revocation and amendment, then, yes, as the grantor you have the right to amend your trust any time prior to your death of...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts I know . . . but I was answering them in order as I scrolled down. I was in a meeting and trying to be subtle . . . Hell, I'm the one that called the meeting and I'm the one chatting on line during the meeting !! ha ha ha
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts One clarification: A guy drafting his own documents or filling in the blanks of a computer generated document is acting pro se, representing himself, which is fine. A gun dealer that gives the buyer the form and says "this is all you need" may be considered to be...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts Exactly.
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts Well stated Jim.
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts You can't "cite" to law to explain how to draft a document that serves your client better than a computer generated form.
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts True. A trust is trust. If you are going to put an elephant in a trust, you probably need some additional language to address its specific needs than if you are going to put a 40 acre piece of land in the trust. A trust is a trust from a legal sense of the word. A...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts True enough - any attorney can do it. The more experience drafting such things the better, but any attorney can do it.
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts Quicken is perfectly legal. We know that it works well enough to get your application approved. Thousands of approval establish that. It may or may not protect some guys in some applications if scrutinized. A lawyer can protect his client in his client's exact...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts The NFA law only mentions that trusts can own Class III items. There is no further requirement or instruction at all. You can stick a class III item in any trust and call it a day if you want. Its legal. It may leave you with some problems because you haven't...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts The agent I spoke with personally (face to face) disagrees with Ashton I guess. He plainly confirmed trusts are not scrutinized at the time the application is submitted. They simply don't have time to run all of those application through a legal analysis especially...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts That's true.
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts I think hearsay is probably all you will find. However, I can tell you from a personal experience with a friend that having an encounter with ATF that doesn't end up in conviction still didn't make the experience enjoyable. He would have preferred to do things...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts I don't believe there are any court cases. My understanding is that frequently, ATF comes at someone with Thunder and Lightning and then gets a plea to a lesser offense to avoid something worse. ATF doesn't want clear laws and court ruling that define the statutes...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Re: Class III NFA Trusts There was indeed a prosecution sought on the east coast based on an invalid Quicken Trust. I am sure it was some other violation that brought the man to their attention - not that they were policing the NFA Trusts at random. I don't know the name of the case, and...
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    Suppressors Class III NFA Trusts

    Gentlemen, I recently read a thread regarding gun trust, Quicken forms etc. I want to clarify something quickly and briefly, to the benefit of my fellow shooters. Please keep in mind: 1) A trust is a legal document, a dealer helping you fill out a form or advising you that the form is even...