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I've been thinking about contacting ARKEN and asking if they'd be willing to sell barely-used scopes that got returned under warranty from basically unreasonable people for trivial reasons. Because you know they are out there, right? They could base it on a "Crossbreed Seconds" model. They...

You're talking to FuhQ, right? We have $175 once....$175 twice...

That's good of you, but I can't see you take a hit like that, bro. I'll go $250, shipped.

Sir-- The scope box itself is 16.75" long, 5.25" wide, and 4.75" depth/tall. The shipping box it came in (assuming you got the free swag) was 20" long, 6.25 wide, and 6.26 deep.

I had a Larue mount on the shelf, and was a little nervous about torqueing the rings to the full 30 in/lbs Larue recommends, as I had no idea how the scope would handle it. I ended up compromising--30 inch/lbs for the bottom (per Larue), 18 inch/lbs for the top.

Agreed. My L>R windage is not so precise, I have I think a 3 MIL bias--but my rifle is home made (and from low-bid parts lol) so that may have nothing to do with the way the scope is engineered. I very much like this scope (and especially at this no-shit price point) and by way of exploration...

I had to back out my zero stop to accomplish full range of travel. Curiously, my bottom was exactly (to the hashmark) 10 MILs down from my rifle's zero. I had some binding at the end of turret travel, full elevation/full down--I'd advise being gentle/deliberate when approaching max travel...

The documentation Arken provided states elevation adjustment range should be 32 MILs. Windage adjustment should be 16 MILs. Has anyone checked their turret travel range inre: elevation and windage? Is windage measured from the scopes mechanical center? Does windage travel constrict as the...

Laying in bed last night the logic/geometry of your remark came to me. Sorry to be slow on the uptake--but you are exactly right. I went back and measured the spread of right and left groups from both days targets--and they are the same. Both groups are 9 MILs apart. Given the right-hand...

No worries, sir. Tone is very hard to discern in the written word, I am exploring this scope that I bought (and am loving), trying to create valid data, and not getting into shit-flinging fights. I am agnostic in the flame wars surrounding ARKEN--I refuse to take part--and honest data should...

I measured from the magic marker plumb line. Hanging an 8-foot cardboard target by myself was an absolute goat-rope worthy of the 3 Stooges (lol). I did the best I could with a POS level, and got it pretty fricken close. After the test I checked with a plumb bob, and yes, there was a bit of...

No, no worries. I'm looking forward to benchmarks from a shooter WAY more knowledgeable/skilled than myself. I'm still learning to scrupulously practice breath control and natural point of aim. My real worry is posting info which (owing to my own failures?) unfairly tars ARKEN.

My scope is a sample size of 1--I'd say not much can be inferred about the optics line, but if you WANT to go hunting flaws, then get out on the bleeding edge of turret travel. The repeatable return-to-zero pictures speak for themselves. If you need a scope that will dial perfect corrections...

I posted this follow-up on AR15.com. and though you guys might be interested in an update. Yesterday was real cold (like 20 degrees), but it was sunny and bright, and I had enough time/daylight to slow down and concentrate, and practice better breath control and natural point of aim. It...

UPDATE: Looking at the pictures, I realized I fucked up the math/captions on the Right and Left MILs. I didn't dial 5 MILs Right and Left. That would have been 18 inches--which was off the brown paper. I only dialed 4.5 MILs, which is 16.2 inches at 100 yards--which completely changes the...

OK. I'm certain a better shooter with a better load would have gotten better results--but it is what it is. Quick and Dirty Ladder Test: BOX OVERVIEW by Eight Ring I fouled/warmed the bore with 5 shots, aiming at the center/bottom of the red bar on the Champion target. Then I followed with...

I shot a box test today if anybody is interested in seeing pictures. I was only able to dial up 10 mils, and right 5/left 5, and shot 3-shot groups cuz I was racing daylight. Shots grouped at original POA. I have an eight-foot piece of carboard, and I'll shoot it again when I have more light...

By purchasing this scope directly from Arken, without the price markup that a reseller would place on the optic, that money stays in your pocket. By cutting out distribution costs/markups, the optic can be sold at an incredible price point.

So your point is that some scopes made by big name optics companies are overpriced crap and the price is based on the optics companies advertising budget? OK. I can buy into the notion. In my post I said that the glass seems fantastic to MY eye...but I don't own any high end glass. I have...

My EP-5 arrived Friday. I had ordered the evening of December 21. I have followed the Arken threads, discounted both the hype and the doomers/nay-sayers, and bought based on specs, warranty, and price. I hit the range yesterday. Personally, I'd say this is a hell of a lot of scope for $550...