I can get Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 for under 1,300 due to being LEO. Any other scopes out there that are better then this, for the price range?
Rifle Scopes $1,300 or below scope question.
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That's one hell of a discount. There's a lot of hype about the new M5 Mark 4's and there should be a couple reviews available soon. I would be slightly hesitant until I see them, as Leupold's been having issues the last few years. Lowlight and CS Tactical said they would be doing the reviews.
That's one hell of a discount. There's a lot of hype about the new M5 Mark 4's and there should be a couple reviews available soon. I would be slightly hesitant until I see them, as Leupold's been having issues the last few years. Lowlight and CS Tactical said they would be doing the reviews.
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Id think after shot show there will be alot of reveiws of alot of new scopes out.
Id think after shot show there will be alot of reveiws of alot of new scopes out.
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I've read fairly positive reviews. At retail it's a ripoff, but if you can get it for <1300 that doesn't sound like a bad deal.
I've read fairly positive reviews. At retail it's a ripoff, but if you can get it for <1300 that doesn't sound like a bad deal.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can get Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 for under 1,300 due to being LEO. Any other scopes out there that are better then this, for the price range? </div></div>
I don't know about better, but I'd take a hard look at the Viper PST series. You can read the pros and cons about Leupold all over the Hide, but you'll find few here who fault Vortex.
When I look at what Vortex offers in a 4-16 PST in FFP for under $850, I'm trying to figure out who would seriously consider the Leupold for double (it's less for you due to the discount). But ask yourself, what exactly about that scope makes it worth more?
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can get Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 for under 1,300 due to being LEO. Any other scopes out there that are better then this, for the price range? </div></div>
I don't know about better, but I'd take a hard look at the Viper PST series. You can read the pros and cons about Leupold all over the Hide, but you'll find few here who fault Vortex.
When I look at what Vortex offers in a 4-16 PST in FFP for under $850, I'm trying to figure out who would seriously consider the Leupold for double (it's less for you due to the discount). But ask yourself, what exactly about that scope makes it worth more?
John
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can get Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 for under 1,300 due to being LEO. Any other scopes out there that are better then this, for the price range? </div></div>
Yep, Nightforce. Over the past week, there's been more than one Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50mm up for sale. In fact, if you send Savage110 a PM, I'm sure he'd go ahead and sell it.
I'd rather have a pre-owned Nightforce in good condition than a brand new Leupold but hey, that's just me.
Here's the link, PM the seller if you're seriously interested.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2280577#Post2280577
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: D.A.T.</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can get Leupold 4.5-14x50 Mark 4 for under 1,300 due to being LEO. Any other scopes out there that are better then this, for the price range? </div></div>
Yep, Nightforce. Over the past week, there's been more than one Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x50mm up for sale. In fact, if you send Savage110 a PM, I'm sure he'd go ahead and sell it.
I'd rather have a pre-owned Nightforce in good condition than a brand new Leupold but hey, that's just me.
Here's the link, PM the seller if you're seriously interested.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2280577#Post2280577
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, Nightforce. </div></div>
Not sure if you followed his link, but he's looking at the M5(FFP). I've never seen an F1 for less than $1300.
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, Nightforce. </div></div>
Not sure if you followed his link, but he's looking at the M5(FFP). I've never seen an F1 for less than $1300.
John
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrob300</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, Nightforce. </div></div>
Not sure if you followed his link, but he's looking at the M5(FFP). I've never seen an F1 for less than $1300.
John </div></div>
Nowhere in his post did he specifically say that he wants a FFP scope, there is only a link to one. Therefore, it would leave one to question whether a SFP scope was also an option, which is why I made the comment.
However, I am in agreement with you that he should <span style="font-style: italic">definitely</span> take a look at the Vortex PST lineup if he's in the market for a FFP scope.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jrob300</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, Nightforce. </div></div>
Not sure if you followed his link, but he's looking at the M5(FFP). I've never seen an F1 for less than $1300.
John </div></div>
Nowhere in his post did he specifically say that he wants a FFP scope, there is only a link to one. Therefore, it would leave one to question whether a SFP scope was also an option, which is why I made the comment.
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I have a 8.5x25x50 leupold scope and I love it. It's tracked very well on my 338lapua and I believe the glass is very good. I've also got a vortex viper 6x20x44 and it to is a very good scope optically. I've always had an eye for visuals and to me I believe the vortex viper is very close to the same glass visually as my leupold mark4. I've checked it out at night and at both higher magnifications and to my surprise it's very nice. What sucks is that I paid triple the amount for the leupy versus just getting the viper. Kinda the same reason I didn't go with a nightforce because it was another 600 bucks or so at the time. I'm not dogging any other scopes, but hey....that was 600 bucks for something very few people would even notice or care. So I say save the cash and put the money in a viper. Granted if you want more magnification I'd say go with the mark 4, my ar 30 and it hold 1/2 moa or better.
I have a 8.5x25x50 leupold scope and I love it. It's tracked very well on my 338lapua and I believe the glass is very good. I've also got a vortex viper 6x20x44 and it to is a very good scope optically. I've always had an eye for visuals and to me I believe the vortex viper is very close to the same glass visually as my leupold mark4. I've checked it out at night and at both higher magnifications and to my surprise it's very nice. What sucks is that I paid triple the amount for the leupy versus just getting the viper. Kinda the same reason I didn't go with a nightforce because it was another 600 bucks or so at the time. I'm not dogging any other scopes, but hey....that was 600 bucks for something very few people would even notice or care. So I say save the cash and put the money in a viper. Granted if you want more magnification I'd say go with the mark 4, my ar 30 and it hold 1/2 moa or better.
Re: $1,300 or below scope question.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nowhere in his post did he specifically say that he wants a FFP scope, there is only a link to one. Therefore, it would leave one to question whether a SFP scope was also an option, which is why I made the comment.
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OK. Fair enough. Let's ask the OP.
OP, do you care if it's FFP or SFP?
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nowhere in his post did he specifically say that he wants a FFP scope, there is only a link to one. Therefore, it would leave one to question whether a SFP scope was also an option, which is why I made the comment.
OK. Fair enough. Let's ask the OP.
OP, do you care if it's FFP or SFP?
John
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I went for the PST. Haven't heard anything but good about them. Mine isn't in yet so nothing from me first hand yet.
I went for the PST. Haven't heard anything but good about them. Mine isn't in yet so nothing from me first hand yet.
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How about the IOR,s Right in the pricerange. I am looking into one now, and have heard that the glass is a little better than Leupolds ??
How about the IOR,s Right in the pricerange. I am looking into one now, and have heard that the glass is a little better than Leupolds ??
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I think Vortex does a mil discount too, if I were you I'd see what a razor HD 5-20 will run you. It's worth the extra bucks.
I think Vortex does a mil discount too, if I were you I'd see what a razor HD 5-20 will run you. It's worth the extra bucks.
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Your best bet is to save a few hundred more and buy something better.
IOR 3.5-18x50 is AWESOME and can be had for around $1800 (check Liberty Optics). The glass is far more than a "little better" and the reticle is by far the best I have used.
Buy once, cry once.
Your best bet is to save a few hundred more and buy something better.
IOR 3.5-18x50 is AWESOME and can be had for around $1800 (check Liberty Optics). The glass is far more than a "little better" and the reticle is by far the best I have used.
Buy once, cry once.
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The Leupold pricing on Promotive.com is definitely inviting. However, I can't bring myself to buy a Mark4 for $1300 when it STILL doesn't have illumination. That's a deal killer for me for a scope that costs that much.
If you can wait another month or two, wait for the Vortex Viper PST. They're already shipping, and you'll start seeing more reviews popping up. In talking to Vortex on the phone, they were insistent that their optics were as good as, and even slightly better than, Leupold Mark4s in several areas. Vortex is serious about becoming a major competitor in the tactical arena, and they're bringing some serious hardware to the party. Plus, you're dealing with a 4x erector, so you have a more desirable magnification range. As stated above, it's hard to beat a 4-16x50 FFP mil/mil illuminated 30mm tube tactical scope that costs $850 and can go toe-to-toe with Leupold.
The Leupold pricing on Promotive.com is definitely inviting. However, I can't bring myself to buy a Mark4 for $1300 when it STILL doesn't have illumination. That's a deal killer for me for a scope that costs that much.
If you can wait another month or two, wait for the Vortex Viper PST. They're already shipping, and you'll start seeing more reviews popping up. In talking to Vortex on the phone, they were insistent that their optics were as good as, and even slightly better than, Leupold Mark4s in several areas. Vortex is serious about becoming a major competitor in the tactical arena, and they're bringing some serious hardware to the party. Plus, you're dealing with a 4x erector, so you have a more desirable magnification range. As stated above, it's hard to beat a 4-16x50 FFP mil/mil illuminated 30mm tube tactical scope that costs $850 and can go toe-to-toe with Leupold.
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Had 2 Mark 4s and sold and bought NF. They are clearer than Leupy. I went from 4.5x14x50 and 8.5x25x50 Leupy to 3.5x15x50 and 8x32x56. Went from basically new scopes to used. And wish i would have done it sooner. These are being used on pistols so love the eye relief.
Had 2 Mark 4s and sold and bought NF. They are clearer than Leupy. I went from 4.5x14x50 and 8.5x25x50 Leupy to 3.5x15x50 and 8x32x56. Went from basically new scopes to used. And wish i would have done it sooner. These are being used on pistols so love the eye relief.
