1000 yrd project
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Re: 1000 yrd project
Why not just stick with the 300 win mag? It's more than ample to get you out to 1000 yards and beyond. My 300 win mag can stay supersonic out to just a bit over 1800 yards, of course at my location and such.
With the 300 win mag, it's cheaper to shoot, better barrel life than the 338 edge. Now, if you just want an "Edge", then it's the want factor.... Just saying.
Why not just stick with the 300 win mag? It's more than ample to get you out to 1000 yards and beyond. My 300 win mag can stay supersonic out to just a bit over 1800 yards, of course at my location and such.
With the 300 win mag, it's cheaper to shoot, better barrel life than the 338 edge. Now, if you just want an "Edge", then it's the want factor.... Just saying.
Re: 1000 yrd project
I agree with DesertHK. The 338 Edge is an awesome round, but the 300 win mag will get you past a mile and it is much cheaper then the 338 edge. Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
Also think about this. While the Edge is a solid performer it is not the tell all end all of the 338 world or Long Rang shooting. Some of the other 338s make the edge look like a pea shooter and the 375s are even better.
I agree with DesertHK. The 338 Edge is an awesome round, but the 300 win mag will get you past a mile and it is much cheaper then the 338 edge. Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
Also think about this. While the Edge is a solid performer it is not the tell all end all of the 338 world or Long Rang shooting. Some of the other 338s make the edge look like a pea shooter and the 375s are even better.
Re: 1000 yrd project
Unless you are doing BR shooting. Lugging a 28" barrel around is not my cup of tea. My 300 win mag has a 26" barrel with a FTE muzzle brake. Bartlein 1:10" MTU contour flutted. Wait is long but it's a shooter for sure. Of course, made possible by GAP.
Unless you are doing BR shooting. Lugging a 28" barrel around is not my cup of tea. My 300 win mag has a 26" barrel with a FTE muzzle brake. Bartlein 1:10" MTU contour flutted. Wait is long but it's a shooter for sure. Of course, made possible by GAP.
Re: 1000 yrd project
you can shoot 6 cm at 1000 or 7 wsm all day soulds like yo want the edge but consider the 448 lapua and you good for 1600
Bill
you can shoot 6 cm at 1000 or 7 wsm all day soulds like yo want the edge but consider the 448 lapua and you good for 1600
Bill
Re: 1000 yrd project
Bill,
I wish I had a 448 Lapua,LOL...I'm laughing with you not at you.
Steve
Bill,
I wish I had a 448 Lapua,LOL...I'm laughing with you not at you.
Steve
Re: 1000 yrd project
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
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Why do you have to fire form edge brass? It would cost just as much as a normal Ultra Mag.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
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Why do you have to fire form edge brass? It would cost just as much as a normal Ultra Mag.
Re: 1000 yrd project
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotAGuru ⊕</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
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Why do you have to fire form edge brass? It would cost just as much as a normal Ultra Mag. </div></div>
I don't know anyone selling preformed brass for the Edge. I might have missed something but last I knew all the brass was formed out of 300 RUM brass.
But regardless of how you get the brass you still will burn more powder and burn through barrels faster. Thus cost goes up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotAGuru ⊕</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Longshot38</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Remember also that with wildcats such as the edge your price for everything goes up considerably. You also end up running through a good many barrel because you have to fireform the brass and that eats into barrel life.
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Why do you have to fire form edge brass? It would cost just as much as a normal Ultra Mag. </div></div>
I don't know anyone selling preformed brass for the Edge. I might have missed something but last I knew all the brass was formed out of 300 RUM brass.
But regardless of how you get the brass you still will burn more powder and burn through barrels faster. Thus cost goes up.
Re: 1000 yrd project
Bill you are right I do just want the edge. But i have to be realistic I don't have the funds to just throw away. I know that the 300 will do everything I want with exception of 2000 yrd but I am way far from that.
Longrange 338 the reason that you have to fire form the brass is no one makes it and I would have to expand the 300 rum case to fit a 338 bulllet.
I would not mind lugging around a 28 in barrel here in idaho. We have slot of open country and I could get better velocity so I could shot the 210 bergers. Just a thought
Darrin
Bill you are right I do just want the edge. But i have to be realistic I don't have the funds to just throw away. I know that the 300 will do everything I want with exception of 2000 yrd but I am way far from that.
Longrange 338 the reason that you have to fire form the brass is no one makes it and I would have to expand the 300 rum case to fit a 338 bulllet.
I would not mind lugging around a 28 in barrel here in idaho. We have slot of open country and I could get better velocity so I could shot the 210 bergers. Just a thought
Darrin
Re: 1000 yrd project
Edge brass needs to be necked up from 300 RUM and no other forming needed. Not saying that you should go 338 EDGE the WM will work just fine. There is only a few calibers that can REALLY out shoot it long distance anyways. Longrange is right you might want to wait until you can get something that will be more suitable to what your doing. The major concern that needs looked at is bullets then you worry about how fast you can push them.
Edge brass needs to be necked up from 300 RUM and no other forming needed. Not saying that you should go 338 EDGE the WM will work just fine. There is only a few calibers that can REALLY out shoot it long distance anyways. Longrange is right you might want to wait until you can get something that will be more suitable to what your doing. The major concern that needs looked at is bullets then you worry about how fast you can push them.
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Re: 1000 yrd project
The Edge brass formed from 300 ultra does not have to be fireformed. Simply run a tapered 338 expander through the 300 brass then FL size load and shoot. There is usually .004-.005 runout on the first loaded rds but accuracy in my rifle is under 1moa first time through. Accuracy on once fired brass is REAL good.
The Edge brass formed from 300 ultra does not have to be fireformed. Simply run a tapered 338 expander through the 300 brass then FL size load and shoot. There is usually .004-.005 runout on the first loaded rds but accuracy in my rifle is under 1moa first time through. Accuracy on once fired brass is REAL good.
Re: 1000 yrd project
great idea I built mine on a savage target action sa and it shoots great
pics
great idea I built mine on a savage target action sa and it shoots great
pics
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The only reason that I was even considering the edge is becuse I could buy a svage Stevens 300 win mag for $200 and then my smith could build me an edge for $800. Which means I only have 1000 into my rifle. Enexpensive way to get a long range canon. Maybe I am dumb or just want one. Don't know I just think that it would be fun to have.
The only reason that I was even considering the edge is becuse I could buy a svage Stevens 300 win mag for $200 and then my smith could build me an edge for $800. Which means I only have 1000 into my rifle. Enexpensive way to get a long range canon. Maybe I am dumb or just want one. Don't know I just think that it would be fun to have.
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Well there you go. I just want one. Sounds like enough reason to get one. All we are saying is that a cannon such as that is good well past the 1000 yard mark.
Well there you go. I just want one. Sounds like enough reason to get one. All we are saying is that a cannon such as that is good well past the 1000 yard mark.
Re: 1000 yrd project
darrin give me a shout my smith can get you a edge built for way less than $800 if it is on a savage action. heck my 30" barrel with fat bastard brake and 8- 1/4 deep flutes was less than that and it is a shooter.
scott
darrin give me a shout my smith can get you a edge built for way less than $800 if it is on a savage action. heck my 30" barrel with fat bastard brake and 8- 1/4 deep flutes was less than that and it is a shooter.
scott
Re: 1000 yrd project
brake is great it isn't cheap but very effective. it is patriot arms fat bastard. it feel like a 9lb 308 to me only louder.
brake is great it isn't cheap but very effective. it is patriot arms fat bastard. it feel like a 9lb 308 to me only louder.
Re: 1000 yrd project
I've shot side by side and switched back and forth between my friends 6.5G and my 6mmART40.
We both noticed that we had to put in a fair amount more windage for the 6.5G.They were 123's at 2580 fps.6mmART40 was with 105 JLK's .54bc at 2900 fps.
Yes it can be done just like it can be done with a 308 but IMO...There's better choices for shooting at 1000Y
Steve
I've shot side by side and switched back and forth between my friends 6.5G and my 6mmART40.
We both noticed that we had to put in a fair amount more windage for the 6.5G.They were 123's at 2580 fps.6mmART40 was with 105 JLK's .54bc at 2900 fps.
Yes it can be done just like it can be done with a 308 but IMO...There's better choices for shooting at 1000Y
Steve
Re: 1000 yrd project
a friend of mine just got a 6.5 Grendel in a ar. Can't wait to see what it does.
a friend of mine just got a 6.5 Grendel in a ar. Can't wait to see what it does.
