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10mm loads with KKM barrel - Caution

texasredneck

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Had a Hide member ask about a post where I listed results with a G20 with an aftermarket barrel with 200gn Hornady XTPs. So since I took the time to write him back, I thought I would post it here even though this is a precision rifle forum.

OK, here is the set up I used. Don't be a dummy. Use your head and don't try this with a glock barrel as you won't get close with out seeing bad signs of pressure in the form of glocksmiles or a disintegrated weapon.

virgin Starline brass
CCI large pistol magnum primers
IMR 800X powder
Hornady XTP 200gn
Loaded with Lee dies to factory length.

Shot only in the KKM barrel and I highly recommend a 22lb recoil spring as even with that it was sending brass 20 feet to the rear.

Results measured with an Oehler 35P with proof screen on a humid 85 degree day in Texas.

Charge, Avg FPS 5 shots, standard deviation in fps
9.0 grn ,1203fps,30fps
9.2 grn ,1235fps, 39fps
9.3 grn ,1259fps, 24fps
9.4 grn ,1258fps, 13fps
9.5 grn ,1257fps, 19fps
9.6 grn ,1280fps, 19fps
9.7 grn ,1282fps, 18fps
9.8 grn ,1290fps, 25fps
9.9 grn ,1306fps, 16fps
10.0grn ,1315fps, 23fps

The fastest of the bunch was a 1353fps and this was all measured on an Oehler 35p with proof screen. I had no signs of pressure and might have gone a bit higher had I had some additional rounds loaded at 10.1 and 10.2 but once I hit my target of 1300 fps I believed that would be good enough to stop just about any threat, pig, or just about anything else in North America.

Again, I cannot stress enough. Only attempt this if you are an experienced reloader and only with an aftermarket barrel like the KKM. Start low and work up looking for signs of pressure. Need I repeat? Start low and work up looking for signs of pressure. Measure twice, especially at the upper end of the charge range. Do this at your own risk

Cheers,
 
Re: 10mm loads with KKM barrel - Caution

I Started down 2 grains from max load using IMR data, and ended up pushing Nosler 135gr at 1650fps with 12gr. 800x through my KKM. The Wincester primers were a little flat. I'm gonna back off a little more & use harder primers.
 
Re: 10mm loads with KKM barrel - Caution

The most I can get out of my G20 10mm is 14.2 gr 800X 200 gr 1.3" with Bar Sto barrel.
The most I can get out of my G22 40sw is 15.5 gr 800X 200 gr 1.125", with welded up feed ramp.

Neither are practical loads. It takes extra steps to compress the powder into the case and the recoil is too high for any practical recoil spring.
 
Re: 10mm loads with KKM barrel - Caution

Some folks asked for pictures of the barrel. This is the KKM with 50 rounds through it. Less than 6 months old. Sorry for the greasy look. Its been put away for long term storage.


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Re: 10mm loads with KKM barrel - Caution

So I'm assuming factory length is 1.26"? I couldn't get the Hornady 200 FMJ's and XTP's to feed reliably in my KKM until I seated them at 1.245". I played with various recoil springs and mag springs too. We don't need to go off into the weeds on that particular problem, but just wanted to verify your OAL.

Thanks.
Conrad