Howdy guys, Im about to start reloading. Tomorrow im going to buy some bullets to reload. I cant decide if I would be happier with the 168gr amax or 178gr amax.......? It would be a all around round for my gun. Long and mid range hunting also long and mid range target. Anyone with experience with both?
168gr amax or 178gr amax for 308 sav 10fcp
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Read this: http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...r-ballistics/24338-308-win-208-amax-rl17.html
then go get 208gr AMAX n forget the rest!
then go get 208gr AMAX n forget the rest!
Savagestag idk... but I guess I could hand feed them. Everyone I know thinks shooting 178gr is crazy. Yhey all shoot 168gr... which with shelf ammo I do also, but ima start reloading soon so ima go big. Everyone seems to be switching to the 178s.
They are all good bullets honestly. Buy em all and do load workups with each, whichever you like the best...stick with and sell the others on here.
The 208s should fit in your mag but I'm betting your savage is like some others I've loaded for, short chambered. If that's the case, you wouldn't get near enough powder in the case to make the 208 really fly. Check your chamber first....
Go 178 gr amax use hornady match or black hills match cases and load 45.2 gr of varget light it with cci br2 primers coal should be around 2.890 but you can play with that to suit your rifle. But if you gun does not shoot that well all the way to 1000 yards yours would the first that i have seen not shoot it well and i have used it in more 308's than i care to count. Down side is varget and cci br2 primers are on the hard to find list. Hope this helps
Either bullet will work well for short range around 600 yards or so but for a long range bullet, 800+, I would recommend the 178 AMAX. The Savage has a 10 twist barrel and will handle the 178s just fine. Your friends might not be too in depth into long range shooting to know the differences in a better long range bullet with a better BC. If you could find some 178 BTHP they would be worth a try as well as they have an excellent .530 BC.
Id say 178 amax. For mid to long range. 168 grain is dead unless dealing with factory ammo only. Usually the 155(155amax not that great bc wise) or 175 grain class bullets will have better ballistics. If you can push the 208 amax fast enough its a great round.
I can get match grade primers. A buddy of mine said he could find me some. Ask what brand they are though.
Perhaps shooting BR the difference between a federal regular and match might come up but otherwise it is unnecessary. Use whatever you can get. If you can find regular, ordinary CCI primers and are using Varget you will have no accuracy problems whatsoever.
178 gr amax grouped well out of my savage model 10 but a little slower then I wanted for velocity so I went with 168 bergers since I couldnt find any 168 amax at the time but on a good note I now have 800 of the 168 amax
OP, in my opinion, don't waste your time on 168s. 178 A-Max can do everything you need. Why go with something that won't perform as well at long range?
My pet load in my Savage 24" .308 is: 178 gr A-Max, 42.2 grains IMR4064, CCI-200 primers, COAL of 2.780", 2640 fps average velocity at 60ºF.
I can shoot groups at 100, shoot long range out to 1000 or so, or even hunt with it if I wanted. It can do everything.
My pet load in my Savage 24" .308 is: 178 gr A-Max, 42.2 grains IMR4064, CCI-200 primers, COAL of 2.780", 2640 fps average velocity at 60ºF.
I can shoot groups at 100, shoot long range out to 1000 or so, or even hunt with it if I wanted. It can do everything.
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I heard the 178 HPBT's have a better BC than the AMAX's. I'm gonna try that. And, my Savage loves 168 SMK and 44.2 Varget.
Don't wast your time with 168? Yeah little lower bc but what do you have in for dope about 36.7 moa or around 10.5 mils? Im at 31.5 moa for 1000 with a 168 vld that's going a touch over 2800 fps
I just got some 178 gr BTHP blems from Midway. How would you classify these? SMK's, Hornady BTHP? I wanna load some and make test tomorrow.
