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Gunsmithing 1st shot at duracoat...and so it begins

jasonZ

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Hey guys, thought I might post this with some pics before, during, and after. I've got a Win 1894 30-30 that I got in trade and it needs refinished in the worst way. I decided I'm gonna take a stab at duracoat, gun blue. I got the duracoat and hardner, trustrip degreaser, and birchwood casy blue/rust remover. I hope this works as the rifle functions well (even with all the rust inside the reciever), and the riflings look strong.

Before pics
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As you can see, it needs it!
 
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Looks like an awesome project rifle.

Another tip besides the finish work, make sure to take pictures as you take it apart. For one it looks cool! And for two, it sure helps when putting it back to gether. You CANNOT take too many pictures. Those are pretty simple guns but sometimes, its the littlest of details that will escape your memory and cause a problem on assembly.

Good luck with it!

mike
 
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Probably looks a lot worse in person, but I like the weathered look in the pic. Looks like it came out of a saddle scabbard from an old western flick.
 
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yeah I just thought I would try the duracoat thing. I got a local guy that can do it for cheap, but I'm a DIY'er and wanna give it a whirl. I'm in the process of stripping the blueing and rust off. I've got a few photo's, just ain't got em posted yet.

I shoulda took pictures while taking it apart. I did find a thread that shows disassembly and reassembly real well so that's what I'm using for both. They are pretty simple to strip down though. Thanks guys and I'll get some more pics up soon.

I too like the rugged look, but it looks horrible sitting in the safe next to other guns I have, even my Enfield that's all original!
 
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Here are all the parts removed from the rifle. I then used Birchwood Casey rust/blue remover on the parts that I wanted to refinish. This is a time consuming process and needs to be done in a well ventilated area. You will also need some steel wool. I would also recommend latex gloves or something of that nature.

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This is the magazine tube after it was stripped of the blue/rust.

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These are the barrel bands. 1 for the stock and 1 for the mag tube. These have also been stripped of blue/rust.

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Here we have the bottom of the reciever/barrel assembly. I was trying to show how much rust was inside the reciever, but you can't really see it. I don't think this gun was ever cleaned! The nice thing about it was that it was all surface and there were no pits or anything of that nature.

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now this one you can see the surface rust amount on this rifle. I'm pretty sure that this was behind the seat of some farm truck for coyotes or something.

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pics of the barrel prior to stripping everything off. There was some minor pitting on the barrel. Mostly where the barrel and edge of forearm met.Still not bad though.

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Okay important part of the equation. Lauer Trustrip. I have read that alot of guys just use brake cleaner and that's fine, but since this was my first, I bought their stuff. This is what duracoat recommends. It's not cheap, but it's not bad. $12 from Midway. Duracoat was only $17 so I'm still in good shape.

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Okay here is all the small parts after being stripped. The remover was simply applied with a Q-tip and then hit with a dampened steel wool pad. This was the directions on the bottle!

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OK well here we have the receiver/barrel assembly just prior to shooting with duracoat. Their instructions say that blasting is best, however, I did not do this step. I was cheap on that, but was later reminded that a friend has a blasting cabinet! Anyhow, I followed directions again and used a scotch-brite pad on all the items. They were then wiped down with the Trustrip just prior to actually being coated.

I used a small HVLP paint gun that I have to spray the duracoat. It worked out very well.

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Here are some of the small parts after the coating was done. Yes it was sprayed outside on a box! I was advised by a friend that duracoat does not like anything silicone in the same room with it while it's being used and that it could effect the adhesion. Since I had recently used rubbing compound on a buffer to buff out knife handle scales, I figured I wouldn't take any chances. Besides it was a nice day!

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These are both sides of the coated receiver/barrel after the coating was dried enough to handle. I took some other pictures of the process, but apparently I did not have the camera set right, as they turned out very dark and not usable. Anyhow, I simply tied a small string around an inside section of the reciever and hung it up to coat. I also placed a peice of brass in the chamber and a bullet in the muzzle to keep from getting duracoat inside these places. It worked out very well. I also hung the lever up to shoot it.

Now with all that said, I did have to touch up somethings when I was done. Mostly because I got in too big of a hurry and flipped small parts over to soon. Not a problem, because I later realized that I completely forgot to coat the magazine tube!

Overall I'd say that this is a very simple process and that it went very well for my first time. I apologize for not being more thorough, I wish I would have been for everybodies sake. I will post the rifle when reassembled and everybody can beat me into the ground for not doing this or that properly.
 
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A few tips:

Hang the items with wire if you are able.
The stuff does harden up over time so use what you have.

3 steps to a good job:
Prep is the #1, mixing is #2, letting it harden for a minimum of two weeks is #3.
 
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Well here is the end result. Turned out pretty well for my first time. I did find out, upon reassembling the rifle, that I forgot one thing! I did not paint the bolt heads for the reciever screws. No big deal, I can go back and do that.

Beaware that duracoats "gun blue" does not resemble a blued gun! However, it's not horrible. The pics don't show it, but the gun has a definately "blue" color to it.

I also refinished the stock while I was at it. Don't know if you can see me in the first pics or not, but the stock was beat up. So, I sanded it down and restained it, then I put on three coats of poly to seal it off. This also turned out well for the time I put into it. I used a DA sander to sand the stock down, being careful not to stay in one place for too long. It worked very well as long as your careful. Saved a bunch of time on sanding as well.

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Sorry, this is also my first thread on how to do something and I learned a few things from it also. Take lots and lots of pictures! Some of the pics I took during the process did not turn out so there were some that did not get loaded to use. Also be sure to take your time, I did this entire project in a two or three days. Only because it was on my days off and that's just when I have to do things. I'm also an impatient person so I have a tendancy to pursue things rapidly!

Overall all I think it is safe to say that duracoating anything is a simple process, however, I do have experience with auto body work so I'm sure that helps. Surface preperation is everything any time that you paint anything. So spend your time there more so then in other areas (JMHO). I used a small hvlp spray gun to do this. Make sure that you clean your equipment before and after each use. I typically just spray some lacquer thinner through the gun prior to using it and let it evaporate before putting your product in the gun.

I'm very happy with my results and I am ready to order some more duracoat and start on something else. Some of my friends have seen this gun before and after, each saying it turned out very well. Alot of em are now saying that they have stuff they wanna get duracoated. Goodluck and I hope my little escapade helps the beginners out with some tech info and just the courage to try it.
Thanks Jason
 
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Looks a hell of a lot better than before you started, good job. As mentioned I'd definitely recommend blasting and hanging the parts with wire to spray them if you can. Great job.
 
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Nice job! I just got a 94 that will be undergoing the same treatment. I'm glad to hear someones opinion the the "Gun blue" color as I was debating that, while I know pics mess with color its good to see it on a gun.