Is anyone using these yet, what are your experiences, difficulty finding a load?.......
F T/R Competition 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
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Re: 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
I used them in Raton at the Nationals and I was second by 5 points. Jim, the winner, was also using them. They are harder to get running well but well worth it if you can find the right combination. I had only one range session to choose a load before Nationals so I don't anticipate it would be really difficult to find a good load. However, the 185BT from Berger is much more consistent and is really easy to get running well.
I used them in Raton at the Nationals and I was second by 5 points. Jim, the winner, was also using them. They are harder to get running well but well worth it if you can find the right combination. I had only one range session to choose a load before Nationals so I don't anticipate it would be really difficult to find a good load. However, the 185BT from Berger is much more consistent and is really easy to get running well.
Re: 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
I've been trying the 215 and 230 Bergers for F-TR but so far haven't found a load that works well enough to switch from the 185 Juggernauts.
Have you guys gone to the 200 because it's not as much of a leap into the dark as the 215/230 or have you already found that anything over 200 won't really work well enough for F-TR?
Does the 200 give you a significant improvement in wind-bucking ability over the 185?
I've been trying the 215 and 230 Bergers for F-TR but so far haven't found a load that works well enough to switch from the 185 Juggernauts.
Have you guys gone to the 200 because it's not as much of a leap into the dark as the 215/230 or have you already found that anything over 200 won't really work well enough for F-TR?
Does the 200 give you a significant improvement in wind-bucking ability over the 185?
Re: 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
I thought I found an excellent load with 2000MR, great velocity but it all went out the window when the ambient temps went up. I can load for that, but what I can't control as much is chambering a round just prior to shooting, then having to wait a min or so if the wind changes up....that round would most likely run hot.
I have a few other powders I am trying, need to do temperature tests on them. I did manage to get H4350 to somewhat work...may revisit that.
I thought I found an excellent load with 2000MR, great velocity but it all went out the window when the ambient temps went up. I can load for that, but what I can't control as much is chambering a round just prior to shooting, then having to wait a min or so if the wind changes up....that round would most likely run hot.
I have a few other powders I am trying, need to do temperature tests on them. I did manage to get H4350 to somewhat work...may revisit that.
Re: 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
It has .569 G1 BC versus .560 BC for the 185 Juggernaut and requires a 1-11" twist instead of a 1-12" I'm not sure the gain is something the average high confidence shooter can realize.
It has .569 G1 BC versus .560 BC for the 185 Juggernaut and requires a 1-11" twist instead of a 1-12" I'm not sure the gain is something the average high confidence shooter can realize.
Re: 200 berger hybrid for F-TR
I don't think the difference is something that anyone can see, and the 185LRBT/Juggernaut is very easy to load. Poke it in a case 10 to 15 thou off the lands with ~44.2 gr Varget (±0.2) and you've got a load.
I've got enough 185s to shoot this season, in 2014 if I'm still playing the game I'll look at changing bullets. Until then I'll run the 185LRBT/Jugg's
I don't think the difference is something that anyone can see, and the 185LRBT/Juggernaut is very easy to load. Poke it in a case 10 to 15 thou off the lands with ~44.2 gr Varget (±0.2) and you've got a load.
I've got enough 185s to shoot this season, in 2014 if I'm still playing the game I'll look at changing bullets. Until then I'll run the 185LRBT/Jugg's
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