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204 Ruger

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I found an old (2012) 204 Ruger thread, but I figured that instead of resurrecting that one, I'd start a new one so that we can discuss currently available powders and projectiles.

In any event, I am in the process of working up a load for my primary prairie dog gun, a Tikka T3 with an 8-twist, 26" M24 contour barrel. All load data that I post will be applicable to this rifle.

I am honing in on what will likely be the primary load for this gun, and am still debating between the 39 gr SBK and the 40 gr V-Max. I am in the 3950-ish range currently, running 29.8-29.9 gr of CFE 223 in once-fired Fiocchi cases recovered from using Fiocchi loaded ammo in this gun on its first hunt. I have found that in order to get the most out of this cartridge, running a small rifle magnum primer is a must, as the non-magnum primers show pressure signs well below maximum (book) loads. I am using CCI 450s. In my chamber, the SBKs are loaded to 2.436 OAL, which puts them .086 off the lands. The V-max projectiles are loaded to 2.332 OAL, which puts them .054 off the lands.

I am also experimenting with the Berger 55 gr Varmint projectiles, and seeing 3550-ish out of a charge of 28.4-28.6 gr of CFE 223. OAL is 2.464, which puts the projectile .074 off the lands in my gun. I'm testing a theory with this projectile currently, as I have gone somewhat off the reservation regarding the powder(s) used. On the theory that this very heavy-for-caliber bullet may need a slower burning powder, I have taken a couple of steps down the burn rate chart and loaded up a pressure ladder with LeveRevolution (27.0-27.8 gr), and another with H380 (29.0-29.5 gr).

Interestingly enough, running the numbers through ballistic calculators, it seems that the SBK/V-max at 3950 and the Berger 55 at 3550 are within .1 Mil of one another in terms of drop out to 600 yards, though the Berger carries a noticeable advantage in terms of both wind drift and energy on target. What I am half expecting to find once it's all said and done is that there will be no significant advantage to using the Berger projectile on prairie dogs, but that for larger critters (coyotes, etc...) the retained energy advantage of that bullet will demonstrate its value.
 
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Well, my latest range trip was cut short, but I was able to shoot groups using the Berger 55s over 28.4 gr, and 28.6 gr of CFE 223. My gun definitely liked the 28.4 gr load:

204 ruger 55 Berger 28_4 CFE 223.jpg

That's a 5-shot group at 100 yards on a cold, freshly cleaned barrel. Weather was 63 degrees with a ~10 mph wind from the right. Per the Magnetospeed, average MV for this group was 3446.

I did not get a chance to try my loads with the slower powders, nor did I get a chance to try my loads under the 39 gr and 40 gr projectiles.
 
39SBK and keep adding more 8208 until the barrel hums like a tuning fork, then back off .75 grains.

Just kidding...27.4 is Hodgdons max

I’ve loaded to 28.0 (4020fps) but primer pockets didn’t last long in Winchester brass. Shot great though.
 
Man, my gun just did not like 8208... I was getting pressure signs (primers "smearing" into the firing pin hole) at 27.3 gr. So far, CFE 223 really looks like it'll be the right powder for me with these projectiles.
 
Got a chance to try some of my slower powdered rounds yesterday (LeveRevolution and H380) behind Berger 55s, and while the speeds I was seeing weren't terribly impressive (3474 with 29.5 gr of H380 and 3353 with 27.8 gr of LeveRevolution), neither did I get any pressure signs... so it looks like there's room to go up from here. The research continues on that front.

I think that I've landed on a charge of 29.9 gr of CFE 223 for both the Sierra 39 and Hornady 40 gr projectiles (3905 and 3902 at 59 degrees ambient, respectively); now to play with seating depth.
 
i have been using 30.2 gr of 223 cfe with 32gr vmax with pretty impressive speeds 4075fps and nice groups at 100 yards. but horrible extreme spread of 100+ fps. have you experienced a big es with cfe?
 
Damn, that's SMOKIN'!! I don't have the ESs tracked, but for some reason the Hornady projectiles are showing MUCH better SD than the Sierras with CFE 223. At 29.8, the Sierras had a 5-shot SD of 33.6 while the Hornadys had a 5-shot SD of 12.3. At 29.9, the Sierras were giving me an SD of 47.8 while the Hornadys were at 12.1; I really need to shoot for groups with both loads, but probably won't get to the range until later this week (best case).
 
Went to the range today and played with some 40 gr V-max loads (ambient temp was 57 degrees):

N135
25.0 - 3600
25.2 - 3623
25.4 - 3663
25.6 - 3673
25.8 - 3711
26.0 - 3761
26.2 - 3767
26.4 - 3800
26.6 - 3822
26.8 - 3818

Ramshot TAC
26.6 - 3598
26.8 - 3624
27.0 - 3642
27.2 - 3709
27.4 - 3733
27.6 - 3734
27.8 - 3787
28.0 - 3815
28.2 - 3861
28.4 - 3852

My rifle really seemed to like both of these powders, so I'll continue to run up the pressure ladder to see what kind of speed/grouping I can get out of them. I also played with the Berger 55s and some TAC (again at 57 degrees ambient temp):

25.0 - 3185
25.2 - 3213
25.4 - 3270
25.6 - 3257
25.8 - 3355 (NO idea why there was a 100 FPS jump here; only one shot at each charge, so take it with a grain of salt)
26.0 - 3367
26.2 - 3305
26.4 - 3345
26.6 - 3358
26.8 - 3397

After seeing some funky stuff here I may repeat this ladder while extending it into the 27.0 gr range.