I am slightly(extremely, but broke) interested in a suppressor(silenerco sparrow) for my 22lr bolt gun. My question is not exactly how loud one is, but how far away could it be heard by the healthy human ear? 50yards, 100 yards, 200 yards?
Suppressors 22 suppressor distance heard?
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Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
while i don't have the sparrow I have a Titanim Cascade and my neighbor asked the other day "what the hell are you always stapling"
I almost busted up laughing !!!
yeah its that quiet Suppresed 22 Rifle
while i don't have the sparrow I have a Titanim Cascade and my neighbor asked the other day "what the hell are you always stapling"
I almost busted up laughing !!!
yeah its that quiet Suppresed 22 Rifle
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now thats funny.
Now watch me "staple" that squirrel to that tree.
How far away is you nieghbor?
Now watch me "staple" that squirrel to that tree.
How far away is you nieghbor?
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
LMFAO!!
our lots are 150 x 75 so maybe 50 to 100 feet
if there is enough wind the noise is almost drowned out, we usually have 20mph winds
LMFAO!!
our lots are 150 x 75 so maybe 50 to 100 feet
if there is enough wind the noise is almost drowned out, we usually have 20mph winds
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
On a bolt gun, probably sound like a pellet rifle, maybe a little louder (ammo depending.)
It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors.
On a bolt gun, probably sound like a pellet rifle, maybe a little louder (ammo depending.)
It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
ok.. just wondering. i would have to test it out when i got it and see what it was like. my purpose is for those small furry and feathered creatures that come in groups. I would like to be able to pick off as many as possible before they figured out what was happening.
And because owning a suppressed 22 would be awesome.
ok.. just wondering. i would have to test it out when i got it and see what it was like. my purpose is for those small furry and feathered creatures that come in groups. I would like to be able to pick off as many as possible before they figured out what was happening.
And because owning a suppressed 22 would be awesome.
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In a bolt gun, i would run 22 shorts. Up close, they'll do the job and noise will be hysterically little. I usually run a 10/22 with a can and subs, it sound like a pellet rifle.
Also, be aware, "real world" suppressors never sound like hollywood suppressors. Just FYI.
In a bolt gun, i would run 22 shorts. Up close, they'll do the job and noise will be hysterically little. I usually run a 10/22 with a can and subs, it sound like a pellet rifle.
Also, be aware, "real world" suppressors never sound like hollywood suppressors. Just FYI.
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i shoot a Savage markII with wolf target ammo. Yea, i have read enough to know that its not a silencer its a suppressor. Most stuff i seen says that they knock em down about 15decibles. Thanks for your help guys. I will start saving up for one soon.
i shoot a Savage markII with wolf target ammo. Yea, i have read enough to know that its not a silencer its a suppressor. Most stuff i seen says that they knock em down about 15decibles. Thanks for your help guys. I will start saving up for one soon.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
i think the sparrow is something like 40decibels
or very close to that.. I know its stupid quiet
i think the sparrow is something like 40decibels
or very close to that.. I know its stupid quiet
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Real world .22 can sound exactly like Hollywood suppressors. In the film "Assassines" (1995) all the recorded sound was unedited and recorded as shot in every scene. All the integral .22s (pistols and rifle) are very quiet. Check out the credits.
.22 can be louder than you might think. A great deal depends on velocity, cycling noise, blast can quality. I actually think that an industrial stapler would be quite loud when compared to a quality integral. Certainly way too loud for a intregral rifle. A good integral .22 bolt rifle should be so quiet as to allow the operator to hear the sear snap. And that would be with supersonic rounds, allowing for tuned maxium subsonic velocities. Your neighbor would not be asking about what your doing with a stapler.
Real world .22 can sound exactly like Hollywood suppressors. In the film "Assassines" (1995) all the recorded sound was unedited and recorded as shot in every scene. All the integral .22s (pistols and rifle) are very quiet. Check out the credits.
.22 can be louder than you might think. A great deal depends on velocity, cycling noise, blast can quality. I actually think that an industrial stapler would be quite loud when compared to a quality integral. Certainly way too loud for a intregral rifle. A good integral .22 bolt rifle should be so quiet as to allow the operator to hear the sear snap. And that would be with supersonic rounds, allowing for tuned maxium subsonic velocities. Your neighbor would not be asking about what your doing with a stapler.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a bolt gun, i would run 22 shorts. Up close, they'll do the job and noise will be hysterically little. I usually run a 10/22 with a can and subs, it sound like a pellet rifle.
Also, be aware, "real world" suppressors never sound like hollywood suppressors. Just FYI. </div></div>
Actually you're better off running subsonic ammo instead of shorts. When you run shorts theres a gap in the chamber and makes more of a popping sound. I compared the two just recently for the same reasons. Shorts are louder and also not nearly as accurate.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a bolt gun, i would run 22 shorts. Up close, they'll do the job and noise will be hysterically little. I usually run a 10/22 with a can and subs, it sound like a pellet rifle.
Also, be aware, "real world" suppressors never sound like hollywood suppressors. Just FYI. </div></div>
Actually you're better off running subsonic ammo instead of shorts. When you run shorts theres a gap in the chamber and makes more of a popping sound. I compared the two just recently for the same reasons. Shorts are louder and also not nearly as accurate.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
Shorts can run to 750fps to 1150fps.
There are LR so from 750 to 1400fpf.
Sub .22s are pretty TV quite.
Shorts can run to 750fps to 1150fps.
There are LR so from 750 to 1400fpf.
Sub .22s are pretty TV quite.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
Not going to get much quieter then a 22LR in a bolt gun. Out in the open, the firing pin dropping is probably louder then the air coming out of the rifle. There is no bang to speak off. Shooting at 25 to 50 yards you can hear the bullet punching the hole in the paper if you are shooting subs.
Not going to get much quieter then a 22LR in a bolt gun. Out in the open, the firing pin dropping is probably louder then the air coming out of the rifle. There is no bang to speak off. Shooting at 25 to 50 yards you can hear the bullet punching the hole in the paper if you are shooting subs.
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One of the ways to look at is that it is relative to ambient noise.
An 18"+ bolt action 22LR with subsonic loads and a decent suppressor is very quiet. How far away can it be heard? It comes down to the ambient noise level.
Compare it to light:
A small flashlight might not be noticed in the daytime, but out in a field in a dark night it could hardly be missed. If you are our on your deck in town, in the afternoon, in conversation, with all the ambient noise that goes with it: the above .22 probably would not be noticed over the fence in the neighbor's yard. If it is at night out on a lake or another open area with very little ambient noise, I would say you could still hear the shot noise about as far away as someone clearing their throat.
Another way of looking at it, a suppressed .22LR is usually quieter that the impact of projectile into dirt if you are within about 25 yards of a berm.
Hope that helps.
One of the ways to look at is that it is relative to ambient noise.
An 18"+ bolt action 22LR with subsonic loads and a decent suppressor is very quiet. How far away can it be heard? It comes down to the ambient noise level.
Compare it to light:
A small flashlight might not be noticed in the daytime, but out in a field in a dark night it could hardly be missed. If you are our on your deck in town, in the afternoon, in conversation, with all the ambient noise that goes with it: the above .22 probably would not be noticed over the fence in the neighbor's yard. If it is at night out on a lake or another open area with very little ambient noise, I would say you could still hear the shot noise about as far away as someone clearing their throat.
Another way of looking at it, a suppressed .22LR is usually quieter that the impact of projectile into dirt if you are within about 25 yards of a berm.
Hope that helps.
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More things to consider are weather conditions, like humidity, how warm the barrel/suppressor are, and where you are shooting makes a BIG difference. The sound will echo off the side of a building or if there is a structure parallel to your line of sight it'll make the pewww sound.
I'm not sure exactly what causes that sound but it does it all the time at my uncle's house but at my house my Savage .223 with YHM-3200 suppressor is pellet rifle quiet.
More things to consider are weather conditions, like humidity, how warm the barrel/suppressor are, and where you are shooting makes a BIG difference. The sound will echo off the side of a building or if there is a structure parallel to your line of sight it'll make the pewww sound.
I'm not sure exactly what causes that sound but it does it all the time at my uncle's house but at my house my Savage .223 with YHM-3200 suppressor is pellet rifle quiet.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors. </div></div>
I think this is your best answer. Especially if the person is not watching you shoot the gun, or have never heard a rifle go off....especially a suppressed rifle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rancid Coolaid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors. </div></div>
I think this is your best answer. Especially if the person is not watching you shoot the gun, or have never heard a rifle go off....especially a suppressed rifle.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Real world .22 can sound exactly like Hollywood suppressors. In the film "Assassines" (1995) all the recorded sound was unedited and recorded as shot in every scene. All the integral .22s (pistols and rifle) are very quiet. Check out the credits.
.22 can be louder than you might think. A great deal depends on velocity, cycling noise, blast can quality. I actually think that an industrial stapler would be quite loud when compared to a quality integral. Certainly way too loud for a intregral rifle. A good integral .22 bolt rifle should be so quiet as to allow the operator to hear the sear snap. And that would be with supersonic rounds, allowing for tuned maxium subsonic velocities. Your neighbor would not be asking about what your doing with a stapler.
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I've noticed you go to integrally suppressed in most suppressor conversations - though far fewer shoot integral than not. And the OP was not asking about integral - nor planning to run one.
I agree integral is usually quieter than screw-on, for reasons that should be obvious to knowledgeable shooters.
As for proving your point with a movie and its credits, it's no fun to hit one out of the park when you lob it over the plate like that.
No need to argue for argument's sake.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Real world .22 can sound exactly like Hollywood suppressors. In the film "Assassines" (1995) all the recorded sound was unedited and recorded as shot in every scene. All the integral .22s (pistols and rifle) are very quiet. Check out the credits.
.22 can be louder than you might think. A great deal depends on velocity, cycling noise, blast can quality. I actually think that an industrial stapler would be quite loud when compared to a quality integral. Certainly way too loud for a intregral rifle. A good integral .22 bolt rifle should be so quiet as to allow the operator to hear the sear snap. And that would be with supersonic rounds, allowing for tuned maxium subsonic velocities. Your neighbor would not be asking about what your doing with a stapler.
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I've noticed you go to integrally suppressed in most suppressor conversations - though far fewer shoot integral than not. And the OP was not asking about integral - nor planning to run one.
I agree integral is usually quieter than screw-on, for reasons that should be obvious to knowledgeable shooters.
As for proving your point with a movie and its credits, it's no fun to hit one out of the park when you lob it over the plate like that.
No need to argue for argument's sake.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
I was shooting a Mk II with a .308 can on it using CCI subsonics at steel 100 yrds away. It went "CLICK!"...."Ting!" That was it. VERY quiet setup!
I was shooting a Mk II with a .308 can on it using CCI subsonics at steel 100 yrds away. It went "CLICK!"...."Ting!" That was it. VERY quiet setup!
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
i wasnt expecting it to sound like the whole just hearing hte mechanics of the gun work. I was expecting it to be loud as waering my 30 decible earmuffs. but the sound to the shooter is not what i was wondering. Nor what the sounds like to someone else standing 50 feet away who does or does not know what a guns sounds like.
What i was wondering is more along the lines of If im shooting at crows 150 yards away, are they going to probaly fly off at the sound of the gunshot or wait till one drops dead first?
i wasnt expecting it to sound like the whole just hearing hte mechanics of the gun work. I was expecting it to be loud as waering my 30 decible earmuffs. but the sound to the shooter is not what i was wondering. Nor what the sounds like to someone else standing 50 feet away who does or does not know what a guns sounds like.
What i was wondering is more along the lines of If im shooting at crows 150 yards away, are they going to probaly fly off at the sound of the gunshot or wait till one drops dead first?
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I would guess that crows will fly away after a shot or two from the bullet noise as it passes , they seem pretty smart.
From a bolt action subsonics running thru a suppressor are very quiet. Mine makes less noise than my bb gun.
50' is about as far as i can hear my rifle being fired suppressed
I would guess that crows will fly away after a shot or two from the bullet noise as it passes , they seem pretty smart.
From a bolt action subsonics running thru a suppressor are very quiet. Mine makes less noise than my bb gun.
50' is about as far as i can hear my rifle being fired suppressed
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i think you'd be able to get a shot or two off before they will know that their friends just exploded in front of their face and they decide to move.
that little bullet is still traveling at 800 feet per second
i think you'd be able to get a shot or two off before they will know that their friends just exploded in front of their face and they decide to move.
that little bullet is still traveling at 800 feet per second
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
Rancid,
I discuss blast cans 10 to 1 on these threads. .22s are where integrals play a role, especially when asking about superb suppression. Most folks have no idea why or how an integral is different than a blast can and if anybody should be introduced to the differences, it is this person as he decides how to suppress his .22 bolt gun.
"It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors."
A good .22 design shouldn't sound like a firearm at the operator's ear, let alone at <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">any</span></span> range. The vast majority of your MANY factors are considered and applied in integrals.
Rancid,
I discuss blast cans 10 to 1 on these threads. .22s are where integrals play a role, especially when asking about superb suppression. Most folks have no idea why or how an integral is different than a blast can and if anybody should be introduced to the differences, it is this person as he decides how to suppress his .22 bolt gun.
"It isn't so much "how far off can you hear?" but "at what range - if any - does it sound like a gunshot?" Answer varies based on MANY factors."
A good .22 design shouldn't sound like a firearm at the operator's ear, let alone at <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">any</span></span> range. The vast majority of your MANY factors are considered and applied in integrals.
Re: 22 suppressor distance heard?
22 bolt gun in hand
broke
not a candidate for integral, in my most humble of opinions
but you are mostly correct on several of the things you have said
The reference to Assassins was very amusing. Is there such a credit in "Jurassic Park"?
22 bolt gun in hand
broke
not a candidate for integral, in my most humble of opinions
but you are mostly correct on several of the things you have said
The reference to Assassins was very amusing. Is there such a credit in "Jurassic Park"?
