Anyone using TAC with 77 SMK's for a AR platform?? If so any sharing of load data would be appreciated.
Thanks,Stan
Thanks,Stan
.223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
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Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
24gr will be a bit under Mk262 velocity in an 18" SPR
JFG~
24gr will be a bit under Mk262 velocity in an 18" SPR
JFG~
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
23.6 Tac 77 Sierra w/c. 3 of us running that load around here with great success.
23.6 Tac 77 Sierra w/c. 3 of us running that load around here with great success.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
Hey thanks guys. I have 16 lbs. of TAC and that is why I am seeking input from you guys that BTDT. I also have 16 lbs. of Varget and 7-8 lbs. of RL-15. My goal is accuracy....like most of us.
This will be shot out of my 20" JP rifle (1:8 twist) for 300 and 600 yard matches.
Jason....what were your mix results?
Take care,Stan
Hey thanks guys. I have 16 lbs. of TAC and that is why I am seeking input from you guys that BTDT. I also have 16 lbs. of Varget and 7-8 lbs. of RL-15. My goal is accuracy....like most of us.
This will be shot out of my 20" JP rifle (1:8 twist) for 300 and 600 yard matches.
Jason....what were your mix results?
Take care,Stan
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
Stan,
My MP15 (1:9) liked the Nosler 77's over 23g in LC brass (sub-moa). SMK's ran slightly larger groups but still OK. If I sped them up they opened up fast. I load them at 24g for my son for better terminal ballistics at the cost of accuracy (about 2700 fps @ 2 moa).
Your 1:8/20" should give you the combo to make them work optimally. Load up some OCW and shoot 'em.
John
BTW my friends got best accuracy with Varget. I haven't tried it.
Stan,
My MP15 (1:9) liked the Nosler 77's over 23g in LC brass (sub-moa). SMK's ran slightly larger groups but still OK. If I sped them up they opened up fast. I load them at 24g for my son for better terminal ballistics at the cost of accuracy (about 2700 fps @ 2 moa).
Your 1:8/20" should give you the combo to make them work optimally. Load up some OCW and shoot 'em.
John
BTW my friends got best accuracy with Varget. I haven't tried it.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
23.6 works for me in a variety of different setups 16" - 20"
5.56 NATO to Wylde chambers.
23.6 works for me in a variety of different setups 16" - 20"
5.56 NATO to Wylde chambers.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23 grains did this at 405 yards, 77 Sierra and Colt Hbar Elite.
Stan, my Oehler showed these results:
23 grains = 2550 ft/secs
23.3 = 2600, 23.6 = 2640, 24.1 = 2717
23.6 works very well for a friend with a Krieger 18" </div></div>
Thats outstanding! Does it shoot real good at all distances? Sometimes with the heavier bullets you have to do load development at 2-400yards so I was curious what your 100 and 200 looked like. Again, thats great shooting.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23 grains did this at 405 yards, 77 Sierra and Colt Hbar Elite.
Stan, my Oehler showed these results:
23 grains = 2550 ft/secs
23.3 = 2600, 23.6 = 2640, 24.1 = 2717
23.6 works very well for a friend with a Krieger 18" </div></div>
Thats outstanding! Does it shoot real good at all distances? Sometimes with the heavier bullets you have to do load development at 2-400yards so I was curious what your 100 and 200 looked like. Again, thats great shooting.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
I load 23.0+/- Dillon 650 accuracy in my jr teams ammo. They are using the ammo for high power matches, not benchrest, so keep that in mind. Seems to work great for them. I have shot some of it out of my spacegun and I couldnt tell ya if it was Varget, N540 or Tac, but then, with a sling and irons on a 1moa X ring target, it doesnt matter if we shoot .2s or .3s anyhow.
YMMV, but TAC seems to work pretty darn well...and, the key, its available!
John
I load 23.0+/- Dillon 650 accuracy in my jr teams ammo. They are using the ammo for high power matches, not benchrest, so keep that in mind. Seems to work great for them. I have shot some of it out of my spacegun and I couldnt tell ya if it was Varget, N540 or Tac, but then, with a sling and irons on a 1moa X ring target, it doesnt matter if we shoot .2s or .3s anyhow.
YMMV, but TAC seems to work pretty darn well...and, the key, its available!
John
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TangoDown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23 grains did this at 405 yards, 77 Sierra and Colt Hbar Elite.
Stan, my Oehler showed these results:
23 grains = 2550 ft/secs
23.3 = 2600, 23.6 = 2640, 24.1 = 2717
23.6 works very well for a friend with a Krieger 18" </div></div>
Thats outstanding! Does it shoot real good at all distances? Sometimes with the heavier bullets you have to do load development at 2-400yards so I was curious what your 100 and 200 looked like. Again, thats great shooting. </div></div>
The next day we went out and re shot this 23.0 grain load at 300 yards. Different shooter
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Thats good shooting. Im going to load some of those up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TangoDown</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 308sako</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23 grains did this at 405 yards, 77 Sierra and Colt Hbar Elite.
Stan, my Oehler showed these results:
23 grains = 2550 ft/secs
23.3 = 2600, 23.6 = 2640, 24.1 = 2717
23.6 works very well for a friend with a Krieger 18" </div></div>
Thats outstanding! Does it shoot real good at all distances? Sometimes with the heavier bullets you have to do load development at 2-400yards so I was curious what your 100 and 200 looked like. Again, thats great shooting. </div></div>
The next day we went out and re shot this 23.0 grain load at 300 yards. Different shooter
Thats good shooting. Im going to load some of those up.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
Stan,
Out of my JP 25grs of TAC was an absolute hammer with the 75/77 gr bullets.
Start at 24 and work up but you should see similar results.
Stan,
Out of my JP 25grs of TAC was an absolute hammer with the 75/77 gr bullets.
Start at 24 and work up but you should see similar results.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what were your mix results?</div></div>
Well, the loads I have tried so far with TAC behind 77gr SMKs really haven't been too impressive out of my AR. My rifle is a SPRish clone I built with a 20" stainless Lothar Walther 1/8 barrel. Original 3-shot groups with a round robin load development up to 24.4gr (in .3gr increments) were very promising, with several sub MOA groups. However, 5-shot groups with those loads were no better than 1.25-1.5" at 100 yards.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what were your mix results?</div></div>
Well, the loads I have tried so far with TAC behind 77gr SMKs really haven't been too impressive out of my AR. My rifle is a SPRish clone I built with a 20" stainless Lothar Walther 1/8 barrel. Original 3-shot groups with a round robin load development up to 24.4gr (in .3gr increments) were very promising, with several sub MOA groups. However, 5-shot groups with those loads were no better than 1.25-1.5" at 100 yards.
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23.6 Tac 77 Sierra w/c. 3 of us running that load around here with great success. </div></div>
Jim,
What is your COL for the 77 gr SMK w/c and do you crimp? Based on some Silver State 5.56 I have these need to be loaded a little shorter - does that make any difference VS the standard bullet loaded out to max magazine length?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">23.6 Tac 77 Sierra w/c. 3 of us running that load around here with great success. </div></div>
Jim,
What is your COL for the 77 gr SMK w/c and do you crimp? Based on some Silver State 5.56 I have these need to be loaded a little shorter - does that make any difference VS the standard bullet loaded out to max magazine length?
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
I seem to get great accuracy with these 2 powders with 77gr. SMK's. (18" WOA bbl)
Almost identical to each other (groups)
<span style="font-weight: bold">23.8gr. TAC</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">24.5gr. VV N-140</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">The VV N-140 works very well if not better with the 69gr. SMK's also.</span>
I seem to get great accuracy with these 2 powders with 77gr. SMK's. (18" WOA bbl)
Almost identical to each other (groups)
<span style="font-weight: bold">23.8gr. TAC</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">24.5gr. VV N-140</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">The VV N-140 works very well if not better with the 69gr. SMK's also.</span>
Re: .223 AR load for 77gr SMK's and TAC..anyone??
24.4 of TAC w/77gr Nosler col 2.250 gets me 2726fps this 16" AR
24.4 of TAC w/77gr Nosler col 2.250 gets me 2726fps this 16" AR
