I need help in deciding between the two. This rifle will be used for target shooting (out to 500 yards) most of the time and used for varmint hunting. The two I have it narrowed down to are a Rem 700 sps tactical with a 20inch barrel with 1in9 twist sitting on a manners t4 stock I already have, the other a DPMS 16inch bull barrel with a 1in9 twist. With 1in9 twist I was hoping to use a 75 grain bullet.
223 in AR15 or Rem700
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Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
I'll probably catch hell for this but....go with the M700...tha AR's can not match accuracy.....with the same money spent....the AR is a good platform but odds are the Zombies aren't going to come and the M700 can go out further if you rebarrel it to 1-7 twist....looking at 1k yards with the correct bullets...the AR can as well but the true sport of shooting is better served with a bolt action IMO.
Go with the SPS...shootout the barrel and then rebarrel to a fast twist.
I'll probably catch hell for this but....go with the M700...tha AR's can not match accuracy.....with the same money spent....the AR is a good platform but odds are the Zombies aren't going to come and the M700 can go out further if you rebarrel it to 1-7 twist....looking at 1k yards with the correct bullets...the AR can as well but the true sport of shooting is better served with a bolt action IMO.
Go with the SPS...shootout the barrel and then rebarrel to a fast twist.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bebberson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I need help in deciding between the two. This rifle will be used for target shooting (out to 500 yards) most of the time and used for varmint hunting. The two I have it narrowed down to are a Rem 700 sps tactical with a 20inch barrel with 1in9 twist sitting on a manners t4 stock I already have, the other a DPMS 16inch bull barrel with a 1in9 twist. With 1in9 twist I was hoping to use a 75 grain bullet. </div></div>
If those are your only choices, go with the 700. The AR you are considering is useless for your stated purposes.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bebberson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I need help in deciding between the two. This rifle will be used for target shooting (out to 500 yards) most of the time and used for varmint hunting. The two I have it narrowed down to are a Rem 700 sps tactical with a 20inch barrel with 1in9 twist sitting on a manners t4 stock I already have, the other a DPMS 16inch bull barrel with a 1in9 twist. With 1in9 twist I was hoping to use a 75 grain bullet. </div></div>
If those are your only choices, go with the 700. The AR you are considering is useless for your stated purposes.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
For 223, out to 500 yards, with varmints, you can't go wrong with an AR with a good barrel. More and more varmint hunters are using ARs...and loving them. I'd recommend a 20" to 24" barrel, 1:8 twist, Wylde chamber. A 16" barrel is not what you want for varmint and predator hunting out to 500 yards. Rock River Predator would fit the bill very well: http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=271
A bolt action might be slightly more accurate...might. But an AR with a 5 or 20 round magazine is a lot of fun with the Varmints.
For 223, out to 500 yards, with varmints, you can't go wrong with an AR with a good barrel. More and more varmint hunters are using ARs...and loving them. I'd recommend a 20" to 24" barrel, 1:8 twist, Wylde chamber. A 16" barrel is not what you want for varmint and predator hunting out to 500 yards. Rock River Predator would fit the bill very well: http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=271
A bolt action might be slightly more accurate...might. But an AR with a 5 or 20 round magazine is a lot of fun with the Varmints.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
I have a 223 700 with a 20" 1/9 twist. It loves the 69's but you have to know the wind. One the other hand, I have an AR with a 20" 1/7.7 that loves the 77's. They are both a blast to shoot but I would go with a 1/7.7 to shoot the 77's if 500 is where you plan to spend a lot of time.
I have a 223 700 with a 20" 1/9 twist. It loves the 69's but you have to know the wind. One the other hand, I have an AR with a 20" 1/7.7 that loves the 77's. They are both a blast to shoot but I would go with a 1/7.7 to shoot the 77's if 500 is where you plan to spend a lot of time.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
Go with the R700.
I have a few AR's but prefer the bolt for accuracy & ease of cleaning. Either platform will work assuming you get the proper twist.
Go with the R700.
I have a few AR's but prefer the bolt for accuracy & ease of cleaning. Either platform will work assuming you get the proper twist.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
You can obviously do what you want to with an AR15 though that DPMS would be my last choice. You need something with a great barrel.
A bolt gun would allow you to accomplish your goal a little easier I think... and probably cheaper too. As others have said, if you want to shoot 75gr at long distance, you better get a 1/8 or 1/7 twist barrel.
You can obviously do what you want to with an AR15 though that DPMS would be my last choice. You need something with a great barrel.
A bolt gun would allow you to accomplish your goal a little easier I think... and probably cheaper too. As others have said, if you want to shoot 75gr at long distance, you better get a 1/8 or 1/7 twist barrel.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
I'd have to say that for varmint hunting an AR gives you the ability to spot hits and follow up quickly with a properly doped shot.
I'd get a 1-8 twist 20" Wilson SR barrel for $200 or a Kreiger 1-7.7 twist 20" SR barrel for $425.
Both will do .5 MOA Accuracy wise, and I think that is more than good enough for real world shooting.
If 3" groups at 500 - 600 yards isn't going to make you smile than you know what to do.
For the .223 caliber the AR is the best platform IMO.
Save your boltgun for a different caliber.
(22-250 in a 1-9 twist)
I'd have to say that for varmint hunting an AR gives you the ability to spot hits and follow up quickly with a properly doped shot.
I'd get a 1-8 twist 20" Wilson SR barrel for $200 or a Kreiger 1-7.7 twist 20" SR barrel for $425.
Both will do .5 MOA Accuracy wise, and I think that is more than good enough for real world shooting.
If 3" groups at 500 - 600 yards isn't going to make you smile than you know what to do.
For the .223 caliber the AR is the best platform IMO.
Save your boltgun for a different caliber.
(22-250 in a 1-9 twist)
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
On the accuracy front, I am using my 20" AR against 26" remingtons at 500 yards in F-Class...and have no problem competing.
On the accuracy front, I am using my 20" AR against 26" remingtons at 500 yards in F-Class...and have no problem competing.
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
Thanks for all of the replies, I made my decsion and went with the Rem700 SPS tactical. My plan is to add my manners t4 stock and top it with a falcon menace 4-14 with seekins rings and rail. Later install a tactical bolt knob and seekins trigger guard w/ detachable mag. Think that will work??
Thanks for all of the replies, I made my decsion and went with the Rem700 SPS tactical. My plan is to add my manners t4 stock and top it with a falcon menace 4-14 with seekins rings and rail. Later install a tactical bolt knob and seekins trigger guard w/ detachable mag. Think that will work??
Re: 223 in AR15 or Rem700
Good choice, I just did the same. My falcon 4-14x44 will be up for sale soon. Let me know if you are interested.
Good choice, I just did the same. My falcon 4-14x44 will be up for sale soon. Let me know if you are interested.
