Anyone else use a .250-300 with sierra 117's for intermediate to long range shooting? I use mild recoiling rounds to to a cervical spine injury, and I get good results out of it, but have yet to see anyone else using one.
.250 savage
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Based on my limited experience it seems running 117s would either eat up too much case volume or cause chamber issues. Unless maybe you had a build for just that bullet. It is one of the 3 favorite cartridges of my septuagenarian dad, the other 2 being .243 and .257 Roberts. All favs for the very reason you mentioned.
If you like the quarter bores look into a 25-223, i believe he goes by dk17hmr here. He has a no nut savage chambered in it and it is a very very nice 1/4 bore runs 100-117gr bullets without a problem.
I have an AR chambered in 25-223 and it runs 75gr-117gr also. In a bolt gun you can seat longer and push the cartridge a little more than an Ar.
I get 2700fps with a 90sbk over aa2200.
I have an AR chambered in 25-223 and it runs 75gr-117gr also. In a bolt gun you can seat longer and push the cartridge a little more than an Ar.
I get 2700fps with a 90sbk over aa2200.
I made his .25-223 and still have the reamer. I prefer my 6x45's due to bullet selection. My fascination with the .250 savage is simply based off of it being my very first centerfire that my dad made on a 96 mauser. He did a great job on the stock, and made it short just for me. I killed my first deer with it at 9 years old, and still smoke one with it once in a while. I do love some .25's though.
Delta
I have been shooting a 250-3000 Ackley for about 10 years. It is strictly a hunting rifle but it is amazingly accurate and fun to shoot. I am running 100 gr Hornadys at just shy of 3200fps. If you look at case specs for the 250 AI and then compare them to the 6.5 Creedmoor you have to wonder....except for a few minor differences, mostly shoulder angle, they are very close to the same.
I have been shooting a 250-3000 Ackley for about 10 years. It is strictly a hunting rifle but it is amazingly accurate and fun to shoot. I am running 100 gr Hornadys at just shy of 3200fps. If you look at case specs for the 250 AI and then compare them to the 6.5 Creedmoor you have to wonder....except for a few minor differences, mostly shoulder angle, they are very close to the same.
Delta4-3,
That bullet will work fine for shooting pretty much as far as you need. It won't beat a 6mm with a tight twist, though. Or any other "hot-rod" for that matter.
In fact that used to be a factory load.
My issue with the .250 Savage isn't case capacity, it's case taper. With the more taper, the case won't grip the chamber walls as well as a straight case will, and therefore pressure's have to be reduced. To get around that, you just use a slower powder. The .250 case doesn't have a whole lot of room for that, but due to the smaller neck, you can move to some slower powders and still get the velocities you need. And yes, the Creedmoor's are pretty much a less extreme improvement on the .250 Savage case than the Ackleys. A more useable improvement in my mind.
I too have been mulling an upper in 25-223. Not sure if I wanted to stay with that or bump up to .25 TCU. I like the thought of a heavier bullet doing what a 62 gr. .224 can do for velocity. And, not having to make modifications in an AR-15 platform.
That bullet will work fine for shooting pretty much as far as you need. It won't beat a 6mm with a tight twist, though. Or any other "hot-rod" for that matter.
In fact that used to be a factory load.
My issue with the .250 Savage isn't case capacity, it's case taper. With the more taper, the case won't grip the chamber walls as well as a straight case will, and therefore pressure's have to be reduced. To get around that, you just use a slower powder. The .250 case doesn't have a whole lot of room for that, but due to the smaller neck, you can move to some slower powders and still get the velocities you need. And yes, the Creedmoor's are pretty much a less extreme improvement on the .250 Savage case than the Ackleys. A more useable improvement in my mind.
I too have been mulling an upper in 25-223. Not sure if I wanted to stay with that or bump up to .25 TCU. I like the thought of a heavier bullet doing what a 62 gr. .224 can do for velocity. And, not having to make modifications in an AR-15 platform.
I like the .25-223, but not as good as my 6x45's with an 80-85g bullet. I had a 7tcu ar-15 too.
I've only stretched my .250 out to 420, but it does wonderful out to that distance. What is cool about mine is that I have a 52g cast bullet load propelled by 7g of Unique that has the same POI as my 117's at 100, oddly enough.
If you do end up building a .25-223, you can borrow my reamer.
I've only stretched my .250 out to 420, but it does wonderful out to that distance. What is cool about mine is that I have a 52g cast bullet load propelled by 7g of Unique that has the same POI as my 117's at 100, oddly enough.
If you do end up building a .25-223, you can borrow my reamer.
For that we could be best friends for life and stuff.
Seriously, I do appreciate the offer and will keep it in mind.the .250-3000 savage is near bout my favorite centerfire cartridge. I have never considered it to be a long range cartridge, however. 1st, there really isn't much in the way of high-BC bullets in .257 diameter. 2nd, the case capacity really isn't there to drive heavy .25's.
I shoot 87 and 100 g flat bases out of mine. it shoots those great, within its range limitations. light recoil, low report. I don't think it really makes any sense to have a .250 savage in a heavy target-type rifle.
For long range, I think any number of the various 6mm's, including a regular SAAMI .243 Winchester, will trump the .250 in pretty much all respects.
Berger does make a pretty nice 115 gr. VLD, that gets to 1k in a hurry. But that is out of my .25 WSSM. My .250-3000 was an 1899 Savage with a 1-14" twist. I had no choice to never go over 90 gr. bullets with it. Well, I had a choice, but it was like pitching knuckleballs with 100 gr. and up bullets.
