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Gunsmithing 260 Remington "Match" chamber question

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Looking at buying a new barrel cut with the 260 "match" chamber.
How does it differ from Sammi spec?
Curious if this chamber works well with unturned Lapua brass?
Is it suitable for a PRS rifle?
 
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When you deviate from SAAMI, there is no longer a standard. So a "match <insert cartridge>" chamber reamer is whatever someone dreamt up to try to get more performance out of the cartridge. In other words, your gunsmith's ".260 Match" reamer may not be the same as the next guy's.

That said, typically what is different between a "match" reamer and traditional SAAMI spec reamers is neck and throat geometry. Necks are often a touch tighter (sometimes requiring turning on your brass-- will require a discussion with the GS and some caliper/math work on your end. Anything less than .002" clearance between chamber and loaded cartridge probably needs turning), and the throat geometry is tighter, the lead angle is almost always 1.5 degrees (if SAAMI isn't already), and the length of the free bore is usually set to allow for seating to the lands with whichever match bullet the guy who drew the print wanted to use.

Lapua brass runs on the thicker side, and I've run into instances where I had to turn it down when I shot .260-- it seems to vary a little lot-to-lot whether or not it's a necessity. I've since moved to the 6.5 creedmoor because 1) the SAAMI chamber on the creedmoor(s) are functional match chambers that don't ever require turning, but are geared from the get-go for precision shooting, the velocity difference (if one truly exists) has been negligible IME, and it's nice being able to always find brass, ammo, etc... That wasn't always the case with the .260.
 
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One of the Tactical match chambers is .298nk w/ .088fb.

The .298nk doesn’t require neck turning with Lapua brass and the .088fb works with heavy bullets feeding from AI length mags. I’ve ran 142-150smk’s from mine at the range and in matches.
 
Lapua .260 brass is thicker at the neck, .295 loaded diameter if I recall. Domestic brass is closer to .290-.291. My personal “match” reamer has a .295 neck, as it predated Lapua .260 brass by a few years. You need to determine the neck diameter of that barrel to know for sure.
 
I've been using the 260 SAAMI chamber for nearly two decades. It's looser, but can be dealt with via an old, traditional BR handloading technique; called partial length neck resizing. It was an earlier effort to manage neck tension prior to the arrivial of neck bushing resizing dies.

It starts with 7mm-08 brass. The 260 Rem F/L resizing die is adjusted to only resize the forward half (or so) length of the 7mm-08 case neck. The aft, unsized portion will usually chamber easily, while the forward, sized portion does the bullet retention task. There may be a concentricity bonus going on as well. The result is a sorta hybrid 7mm-08/260 Rem case.

Some advantages:

The case neck sits centered in the chamber neck, and also seals better. Carbon staining stops abruptly at the length where the neck diameter flares. Case cleaning consist of a firm wipe of the neck area with an alcohol dampened shop rag.

Incidentally, my case lube is the RCBS water soluble product, applied by spinning the cases manually with one hand while pinching the neck in the fingers of the other hand, moistened with the case lube. Lube removal is simply a repeat of the neck wipe with the alcohol moistened shop rag.

The shorter neck/bullet bearing length results in reduced neck tension as well as less neck length where work hardening occurs.

The raising of the F/L die results in the unsized portion of the lower case wall remaining expanded, reducing work hardening in this area, as well as ensuring a snug fit where that portion sits in the chamber, possibly centering the case base better. This, combined with the neck centering, allows the case to be both centered and aligned with the bore axis. The intent is to gain some concentricity advantage without the usual rigamarole.

The whole operation allows the F/L die to do a better job.

Other issues:

These cases are going to need a shoulder bump occasionally, and the die adjustment prevents that.

I have a way to address this, too. From the shoulder down, the 260 case should be identical with the 308 case.

I also shoot .308, and I use the physically same case gauge and headspace gauge in both my 260 and 308 headspacing (Savage rifles) and handloading operations. Everything is based off the same identical set of dimensions.

So, by removing the decapper stem from the 308 die, it becomes a good bump die for the 260, and the .260 die adjustment can be left undisturbed (Dillon RL550b press). My 308 rifle setups involve semi's and the partial length resizing setup is not used for that chambering.

This PL resizing scheme was initially intended by me as a variable approach to managing neck tension. It does that, but does not address work hardening. I'm not going to do annealing, so this part of the theory remains unexploited.

I do not employ custom chambers, and all of my chambers are cut to SAAMI spec. Tricks like this may allow one to eke out a bit of accuracy improvement from the SAAMI chamber.

Greg
 
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