What is the difference between a .308 national match resizing die and a normal .308 resizing die???? Is one better for a bolt gun than the other???
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.308 resizing dies
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What are the manufacturers? And national match seems just from the name that it would be more precise, but it also seems that it would work best for rounds that are going to run through an AR based platform. And Ar's have a looser chamber than most bolt guns.
What are the manufacturers? And national match seems just from the name that it would be more precise, but it also seems that it would work best for rounds that are going to run through an AR based platform. And Ar's have a looser chamber than most bolt guns.
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Die in question is a Forster national match die. I'm buying it to replace a standard RCBS resizing die that I got a case stuck in. My try to remove it just trashed it. The price is right, if it doesn't work for a bolt gun, I guess an AR-10 might have to show up some day.
Die in question is a Forster national match die. I'm buying it to replace a standard RCBS resizing die that I got a case stuck in. My try to remove it just trashed it. The price is right, if it doesn't work for a bolt gun, I guess an AR-10 might have to show up some day.
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Just looked it up, and apparently it resizes cases down to minimum/factory specs. Pretty much it will work in your bolt gun, and you can unscrew it small to minimize overworking of brass and allow for proper headspacing... Just like other dies.
Haha, I use RCBS dies. What did you try to do to remove the case? Just the other weekend I had a .22-250 stuck and I took out the decapping assembly and tried to punch it out. Unfortuantly, the punch just broke through the flash hole. so I ended up putting a screw in there, soaking the bottom in PB Blaster and tried again with the punch. Popped right out after a couple good whacks.
Just looked it up, and apparently it resizes cases down to minimum/factory specs. Pretty much it will work in your bolt gun, and you can unscrew it small to minimize overworking of brass and allow for proper headspacing... Just like other dies.
Haha, I use RCBS dies. What did you try to do to remove the case? Just the other weekend I had a .22-250 stuck and I took out the decapping assembly and tried to punch it out. Unfortuantly, the punch just broke through the flash hole. so I ended up putting a screw in there, soaking the bottom in PB Blaster and tried again with the punch. Popped right out after a couple good whacks.
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Seems that a small base sizing die, which is what the "national match" die is would be even more likely to stick brass, small base sizing is rarely neccesary. There's a decent amount of info out there about removing stuck cases without buying a stuck case remover. Drilling, tapping, and pulling using a spacer, bolt, and washer works very well.
Seems that a small base sizing die, which is what the "national match" die is would be even more likely to stick brass, small base sizing is rarely neccesary. There's a decent amount of info out there about removing stuck cases without buying a stuck case remover. Drilling, tapping, and pulling using a spacer, bolt, and washer works very well.
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i went the power tool method. a mini die grinder with carbide cutter bits. I got out alot of brass but steel too. The die was not as hard as I thought it would be. Cutter turning at 50000 rpm does some damage
i went the power tool method. a mini die grinder with carbide cutter bits. I got out alot of brass but steel too. The die was not as hard as I thought it would be. Cutter turning at 50000 rpm does some damage
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To be technical, Forster's NM dies are set to bump the shoulder back .003" further than their regular FL die.
The small base dies are .003" narrower at the bottom than standard with normal shoulder length, so they're not the same. Only rifle I've owned that needed anything other than standard is my POF P-308. Regular FL dies would size the brass enough to chamber, fire and eject no problem, but manually extracting unfired rounds was a bit sticky. Not slam it into the ground while pulling the charging handle sticky, but more effort than none. Went to small base in this rifle just for that.
If you're shooting a bolt action with a standard chamber you don't need anything other than their standard dies unless you have a custom build with a specific chamber dimension.
To be technical, Forster's NM dies are set to bump the shoulder back .003" further than their regular FL die.
The small base dies are .003" narrower at the bottom than standard with normal shoulder length, so they're not the same. Only rifle I've owned that needed anything other than standard is my POF P-308. Regular FL dies would size the brass enough to chamber, fire and eject no problem, but manually extracting unfired rounds was a bit sticky. Not slam it into the ground while pulling the charging handle sticky, but more effort than none. Went to small base in this rifle just for that.
If you're shooting a bolt action with a standard chamber you don't need anything other than their standard dies unless you have a custom build with a specific chamber dimension.
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