4 Minneapolis officers fired in death of black man after video shows officer pinning knee against his neck

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"No, I want to make it very clear that everyone needs to make sure they don’t even begin to come across the wrong way. The site doesn’t need that kind of attention. Be it racism, extremism, anti-police, etc.

Had I “assumed prejudice” I would have banned him and deleted the post without saying a word. "


I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment and approach. You picked a word to fit your agenda to show your authority. That should of been handled behind the scenes. CNN and MSNBC do this all the time and we can not be those people. I use to tell my kids to stop acting like a bunch of monkeys and it had no racial overtone. Although I understand you want to keep the Hide out of the spot light, this is exactly what got us in this position in the first place. I really hope the guy didn't mean anything by the term but you are wrong in your approach and never gave the guy the benefit of the doubt to clarify his intent or why he used the term. If you can't manage your emotions bases off the trigger words then you don't need to be a moderator and you will create more issues for the Hide. Ask the guy to refrain from the wording do to the current political climate and give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no disrespect to anyone. Be polite and non aggressive until you know the intentions. You might actually promote the site.
 

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Have heard similar stories of brick piles popping up on published protest routes in metro areas...
It's my understanding around here they will be allowed to throw bricks, however they will quickly revert to bullet magnets. Some say EMS will not be allowed in until order is restored, no matter how long it takes,...
 

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"No, I want to make it very clear that everyone needs to make sure they don’t even begin to come across the wrong way. The site doesn’t need that kind of attention. Be it racism, extremism, anti-police, etc.

Had I “assumed prejudice” I would have banned him and deleted the post without saying a word. "


I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment and approach. You picked a word to fit your agenda to show your authority. That should of been handled behind the scenes. CNN and MSNBC do this all the time and we can not be those people. I use to tell my kids to stop acting like a bunch of monkeys and it had no racial overtone. Although I understand you want to keep the Hide out of the spot light, this is exactly what got us in this position in the first place. I really hope the guy didn't mean anything by the term but you are wrong in your approach and never gave the guy the benefit of the doubt to clarify his intent or why he used the term. If you can't manage your emotions bases off the trigger words then you don't need to be a moderator and you will create more issues for the Hide. Ask the guy to refrain from the wording do to the current political climate and give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no disrespect to anyone. Be polite and non aggressive until you know the intentions. You might actually promote the site.
And you sir, should manage your emotions. You are a guest in this house. Last time I checked, guests don't question the house staff. If you don't like that, you are free to leave.

If you can't accept things (which no one else seems to have an issue with) without being butthurt, then that can remedied as well. Unlike MN, we aren't going to let crap, or people, get out of hand...on either side.
 
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"No, I want to make it very clear that everyone needs to make sure they don’t even begin to come across the wrong way. The site doesn’t need that kind of attention. Be it racism, extremism, anti-police, etc.

Had I “assumed prejudice” I would have banned him and deleted the post without saying a word. "


I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your assessment and approach. You picked a word to fit your agenda to show your authority. That should of been handled behind the scenes. CNN and MSNBC do this all the time and we can not be those people. I use to tell my kids to stop acting like a bunch of monkeys and it had no racial overtone. Although I understand you want to keep the Hide out of the spot light, this is exactly what got us in this position in the first place. I really hope the guy didn't mean anything by the term but you are wrong in your approach and never gave the guy the benefit of the doubt to clarify his intent or why he used the term. If you can't manage your emotions bases off the trigger words then you don't need to be a moderator and you will create more issues for the Hide. Ask the guy to refrain from the wording do to the current political climate and give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no disrespect to anyone. Be polite and non aggressive until you know the intentions. You might actually promote the site.
I seriously and sincerely don’t give a shit what you think.

I’m not here to pat your bottom and make sure your feelings don’t get hurt. Again, he was absolutely given the benefit of the doubt by not being banned.

Also, I didn’t pick anything. If a moderator gets involved, 99% of the time it was because it was reported. Not because we “picked” something.
 
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MORE ANTIFA SHENANIGANS...

This little shithead from Pittsburgh was dragged into the local police station by his parents. He had been caught breaking windows on police cars and inciting other protestors to join him even as they denounced his actions and tried to reason with him to stop his behavior. Kudos to the parents!

 
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"I seriously and sincerely don’t give a shit what you think.

I’m not here to pat your bottom and make sure your feelings don’t get hurt. Again, he was absolutely given the benefit of the doubt by not being banned.

Also, I didn’t pick anything. If a moderator gets involved, 99% of the time it was because it was reported. Not because we “picked” something. "


This is exactly why I triggered you and why you should not be in a position of power. You just provided an example of how a untrained ( emotionally unstable) police officer kept his knee on the neck of a non combative. Unlike you.....my emotions can get someone really hurt and you have just shown how untrained and emotional outbursts create the situations we are facing today. It's unfortunate you can not control your emotions but hopefully LL realizes the issue and corrects it because there are some very valuable people here who really enjoy reading the site. LL is a good guy and I hope he will correct this oversight and put some one as a moderator who will ask questions behind the scene and understand the intent. If you were out of the academy I would take issue with your emotions and possibly wash you out. Doesn't make you a bad guy.....just not equipped for for the job you have been tasked with. I completely understand what LL is trying to accomplish but from your posts......you are not of the mind set to accomplish the goal.

That being said, if LL doesn't understand the authoritarian approach of your replies then unfortunately this site is beyond what I considered a well regulated forum. Again...doesn't make you a bad guy but you need some coaching on your approach and replies. Even though someone may have reported the post....you have to understand the intent. As an example....you should have reached out to me in a PM to discuss your view on the matter instead of trying to assert your authority in public view as you did with the original post. Again, I don't have any ill will toward you but you don't have the emotional stability to be in a position of authority.

The one thing I know about LL....if he is upset with me he will send me a PM and clarify the intent. He doesn't have time to monitor every forum or conversation but your aggressive approach was wrong.

If you think about it and take some time.....you just quantified the Red Flag Law by reacting with emotion.
 
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EGwhisper, to clarify, you picked the word monkeys because of your assessment of the race of the individuals involved?

redneck, left wing sources are reporting that the bricks are staged there by the police. Obviously false but the gullible believe it.
 

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@Tazman

I'm sitting here wondering how you can deduce all that from someone you have never met. Seems a bit presumptuous to me. Can you explain how you have the expertise in this remote psychological diagnosis?

Also: Do you think LL has not seen this?

You lecture to use a PM to address this issue. Can you explain why you have not followed your own advice?
 

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"I seriously and sincerely don’t give a shit what you think.

I’m not here to pat your bottom and make sure your feelings don’t get hurt. Again, he was absolutely given the benefit of the doubt by not being banned.

Also, I didn’t pick anything. If a moderator gets involved, 99% of the time it was because it was reported. Not because we “picked” something. "


This is exactly why I triggered you and why you should not be in a position of power. You just provided an example of how a untrained ( emotionally unstable) police officer kept his knee on the neck of a non combative. Unlike you.....my emotions can get someone really hurt and you have just shown how untrained and emotional outbursts create the situations we are facing today. It's unfortunate you can not control your emotions but hopefully LL realizes the issue and corrects it because there are some very valuable people here who really enjoy reading the site. LL is a good guy and I hope he will correct this oversight and put some one as a moderator who will ask questions behind the scene and understand the intent. If you were out of the academy I would take issue with your emotions and possibly wash you out. Doesn't make you a bad guy.....just not equipped for for the job you have been tasked with. I completely understand what LL is trying to accomplish but from your posts......you are not of the mind set to accomplish the goal.

That being said, if LL doesn't understand the authoritarian approach of your replies then unfortunately this site is beyond what I considered a well regulated forum. Again...doesn't make you a bad guy but you need some coaching on your approach and replies. Even though someone may have reported the post....you have to understand the intent. As an example....you should have reached out to me in a PM to discuss your view on the matter instead of trying to assert your authority in public view as you did with the original post. Again, I don't have any ill will toward you but you don't have the emotional stability to be in a position of authority.

The one thing I know about LL....if he is upset with me he will send me a PM and clarify the intent. He doesn't have time to monitor every forum or conversation but your aggressive approach was wrong.

If you think about it and take some time.....you just quantified the Red Flag Law by reacting with emotion.
Looks like the rioting has spilled over to the Pit...mods should lead by example and flush this turd.
 
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So I take it the Left has ruined the word “monkey” now, or course, it can no longer be used to describe behavior now. A true lose. Hmmmm, somebody could calm down. 😉
Wont these rioters think of the actual monkeys!!! They are ruining the name and reputation of upstanding primates all throughout the jungle.
 

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A VERY interesting post from a member on ARFCOM who is residing in Bolivia and had gotten intimately involved in that country's internal politics at one time.

More notes to take. Read carefully...

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Originally Posted By tads:

The rioters real goal is to to escalate the violence and really set this off. to do that they need dead guys that they can use as martyrs to incite the passive population as per the socialist handbook. Don't give them that.

When this shit happened to us, we organized everyone in our neighborhoods. Everyone built shields out of oil drums and clubs from lumber.

We ended up fighting a bunch of Cuban and Venezuelan lead communist assholes that set half our city on fire. They had government backing, and shit really really got out if hand.

These were government backed riots designed to quell our protests over their election fraud. Eventually we had a police mutiny and the cops joined our side and the army threw a coup to oust the evo morales government. It was one hell of a month, and the reason we won, was that we kept the casualties to a minimum.

The rioters sought to destroy our image and to incite the passive population. They went to shitty neighborhoods gave free booze and money to a bunch of teenagers so they would attack our residential neighborhoods. The fucking lefty MSM was totally complicit and we got all kinds of bad international press. We won by keeping things proportional with minimum casualties.

You want to defeat these guys? fight fire with fire. Get your own counter protesters organized. Give them helmets, eye pro, clubs, and shields. deny the rioters entry into your neighborhoods using choke points and keep a reserve of dudes in the side streets for when they scatter.

You will find plenty of pissed off people who want to defend their cities to volunteer.

Also, its one hell of an experience.

It gets very surreal when you charge up a street to a medieval street battle the middle of the night with a crew of teenagers, lawyers, and architects armed with baseball bats motorcycle helmets and shields screaming this is sparta.
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Should I be concerned with all homicides or just the ones the media tells me to?
Why is no one asking this on a national level on any of the news networks??? Perhaps because it makes the liberal bastions look bad???
 

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A VERY interesting post from a member on ARFCOM who is residing in Bolivia and had gotten intimately involved in that country's internal politics at one time.

More notes to take. Read carefully...

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Originally Posted By tads:

The rioters real goal is to to escalate the violence and really set this off. to do that they need dead guys that they can use as martyrs to incite the passive population as per the socialist handbook. Don't give them that.

When this shit happened to us, we organized everyone in our neighborhoods. Everyone built shields out of oil drums and clubs from lumber.

We ended up fighting a bunch of Cuban and Venezuelan lead communist assholes that set half our city on fire. They had government backing, and shit really really got out if hand.

These were government backed riots designed to quell our protests over their election fraud. Eventually we had a police mutiny and the cops joined our side and the army threw a coup to oust the evo morales government. It was one hell of a month, and the reason we won, was that we kept the casualties to a minimum.

The rioters sought to destroy our image and to incite the passive population. They went to shitty neighborhoods gave free booze and money to a bunch of teenagers so they would attack our residential neighborhoods. The fucking lefty MSM was totally complicit and we got all kinds of bad international press. We won by keeping things proportional with minimum casualties.

You want to defeat these guys? fight fire with fire. Get your own counter protesters organized. Give them helmets, eye pro, clubs, and shields. deny the rioters entry into your neighborhoods using choke points and keep a reserve of dudes in the side streets for when they scatter.

You will find plenty of pissed off people who want to defend their cities to volunteer.

Also, its one hell of an experience.

It gets very surreal when you charge up a street to a medieval street battle the middle of the night with a crew of teenagers, lawyers, and architects armed with baseball bats motorcycle helmets and shields screaming this is sparta.
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In Marxism what you posted above is the "proletariat revolution" and is led by so called "professional revolutionaries" like Che Guevara actually leading the charge, and Frida Khalo turning hearts and minds for the 5th Column cause.


This is in fact what the Left has wanted in America for decades. Latin American style "viva la revolucion" shit....
 

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Anyone who does not believe govs of all levels are not pushing this is blind as a bat,... who do you think is telling the law to stand down? Trump was late to this party,...Why? Feel good speeches are for the stupid,...

This is an insurrection. Plain and simple. It is a coup to oust Trump by forcing his hand to drop a military smack down on the rioters so the left can scream Tiananmen Square USA Edition, as well as try to provoke some white property owner to mag dump on a crowd of "innocent protestors", in that case they will scream for gun confiscations and implementation of socialism.

Insurrections do not have to be outright military and paramilitary fireworks like in nineteenth century China. Since the Iranian Revolution, we have seen how modern insurrections work. They involve plunging a target area into total chaos and anarchy by USING the poor and underprivileged classes as pawns and inciting them to destroy their own communities in return for peanuts.
 
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