6.5-06

[XLIV]

Would one neck up to this round from a 25-06 brass or neck down from a 270?

Anyone shooting this cartridge with a favorite bullet wgt/recipe?

shooting from a VZ24 action to a 23 1/2 " pencil barrel.


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[HOGGHEAD]

Re: 6.5-06

It is easier to go down than it is to go up. Normally after going down you just need to trim the brass. That is if a fire forming is not necessary. tom.

 

[XLIV]

Re: 6.5-06

thanks..my reading says just pass it thru the FL sizing die and ready to go. I'll check case OAL just to be sure tho..

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[bohem]

Re: 6.5-06

I've done both, I find that sizing 270 brass is easier and I get less runout.

I did the barrel work for a friend about 2 months back, with 140 Bergers we did some load testing.

49.5gr H4831sc, loaded 10 thou jump --> Shoots cloverleafs @ 200y, book listed max load, no pressure signs, UNK. velocity, but takes 7.75 MOA from 200-600y

Working on loads with RL22, fireformed brass, turned necks, he hasn't shot them yet though, but I'm expecting about 3200fps + from the loads, and similar ES and SD results from the heavy bullet, compressed loads in my 30-06.

EDIT: Hodgdon's online data manual has data listed for it.

 

[ChadTRG42]

Re: 6.5-06

I would also neck down before necking up. 270 brass would be the way to go. The 140's in this round would be awesome!

 

[RBros]

Re: 6.5-06

Best to check your gunsmiths reamer. The 6.5-06 is generally setup to use 30-06 or 25-06 brass. The neck on the 270 case is longer and will need to be trimmed to 06' length before necking down. Some reamers have been designed to use a 270 neck length though. I use 25-06 brass in my 6.5-06 imp and just run it in a 6.5 neck sizing die to neck it up. With Retumbo, 140 bergers run 3200+fps out of a 26" barrel with no pressure at all. RE-22 gave me a little more speed, but didn't have the ES I was looking for and is a little to temp sensitive. Going to try H1000 and see what it will do next.

 

[XLIV]

Re: 6.5-06

Thanks for all the input. I poured a chamber casting and it was an exact match of the book dimensions.

I figured this guy was nuts when he rebarreled to this caliber but now I've heard from lots of folks, including one who shoots 1k with it. Really appreciate the help fellas

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[Greg Langelius *]

Re: 6.5-06

The 6.5-'06 has a camparatively small but apparently intensely loyal following. While I would consider it relatively overbore, I fail to see much in the way of horror stories relating to it and bore life. I have worked with .25-'06 and .30-'06 and am currently working with .280 Rem/7mm Rem Express, which is in fact a 7mm-06. I'm finding accuracy surprisingly good. Putting 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tips out at around 3100-3200fps is an awesome experience, but the recoil is no worse than a .30-'06/150gr in a lightweight sporter; I shot both in sequence Saturday. The .280 in question is a Ruger 77 MKI V.

Watch shoulder lengths, some of the .30-'06 family have shoulder length variances from the others. I believe the .280 is a tad longer, to deliberately prevent chambering in the wrong chambers (i.e. .270's).

Greg

 

[Jerry m]

Re: 6.5-06

I necked up .25-06 Winchester brass here, if you consider .007 necking up. You can just seat a 6.5 boat tail bullet in a virgin case without any issues.

Good luck

Jerry

 

[bohem]

Re: 6.5-06

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The 6.5-'06 has a camparatively small but apparently intensely loyal following. While I would consider it relatively overbore, I fail to see much in the way of horror stories relating to it and bore life. I have worked with .25-'06 and .30-'06 and am currently working with .280 Rem/7mm Rem Express, which is in fact a 7mm-06. I'm finding accuracy surprisingly good. Putting 120gr Nosler Ballistic Tips out at around 3100-3200fps is an awesome experience, but the recoil is no worse than a .30-'06/150gr in a lightweight sporter; I shot both in sequence Saturday. The .280 in question is a Ruger 77 MKI V.

Watch shoulder lengths, some of the .30-'06 family have shoulder length variances from the others. I believe the .280 is a tad longer, to deliberately prevent chambering in the wrong chambers (i.e. .270's).

Greg </div></div>

Greg-

The 270 has a different shoulder length than the 280 I think, there's something different with the 270 over the other 30-06 based "wildcats"

I built a 6.5-06 with a buddy back in March. His rifle hits 600y with 140 Bergers in under 9 MOA... We're expecting about 2k total barrel life with 1 setback involved. Overbore ratio is around the same as the 6.5-284, it's a little more overbore, but the longer neck seems to be the come-back factor from a bunch of 6.5-06 shooters that I talked to before I bought the reamer.

I'm building a 280 this week just to shoot the heavier 7mm's for more knockdown and slightly improved BC's and improved barrel life.

Chad- 130 JLK's run 3300-3350 with a 27" barrel. We haven't chrono'd the 140 Bergers yet, it appears they should take around the same to get to 1k, roughly 18-19 MOA each. I will ask him to update a range report when he gets out to TVP in June to shoot it.

OP- I think you're really going to like the rifle. It outruns my 30-06 with heavy bullets in flight path, ballistically it's very flat and efficient, yet recoil is exceptionally light, spotting hits at 200y is simple. (200 is the shortest distance we ever shot it)

The round is scary accurate. It was a Turk Mauser action, budget build, truck axle shilen and initial load testing with 4831sc and 140 Bergers shot clover-leaf groups at 200y.

 

[mw22481]

Built my 6.5-06 on a Rem 700 long a action
Shielin Select match grade barrel 26”
McMillan HTG desert cammo stock
Texas silencer company titanium can on the end. I was getting 3100-3175 with Retumbo/140 Berger’s when I could get it. Then moved to H-1000. Velocities not as high but still a great powder/ bullet combo. Now shooting the 150 smks at steel and paper with H-1000. I have always used 25-06 run through FL 6.5-06 die then clean and load. BUT with the whole populace buying all components I’ve been forced to try and use Lapua 30-06 brass that i have lying around. Running into failure to chamber Issues... found that I have to turn the necks which is a huge PIA. They chamber now but have not shot them yet to fire form. We’ll see tommrow.

 

[7mmMato]

.270 brass works but you got to trim it. .25-06 brass is the easy button.

 

[mw22481]

.270 brass works but you got to trim it. .25-06 brass is the easy button.

Yeah I tried 30-06 and it doesn’t really work. the necks are either too big and won’t chamber or after turning the necks down two or 3 thousandths to .013” the round will chamber but the necks split off upon fire forming. for me I’m tired of messing with 30 odd six it’s too much of a pain in the ass I’m just gonna use 25-06 or .270