6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
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Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
it is as reliable as any primers you'll use, factory or reloaded.
it is as reliable as any primers you'll use, factory or reloaded.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
I have 2700 rounds through mine, still shoots great, I have had maybe 3-4 missfires the whole time, most likely primer issues, all 3 were out of the same brick of primers.
Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223?
I have 2700 rounds through mine, still shoots great, I have had maybe 3-4 missfires the whole time, most likely primer issues, all 3 were out of the same brick of primers.
Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223?
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Misfires all the time . . . seems to be related to the fifth shot of my many 5-shot groups. I just don't understand it.
Misfires all the time . . . seems to be related to the fifth shot of my many 5-shot groups. I just don't understand it.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Thanks for memo - Interesting point, 3-4x in the same batch, perhaps primer related and not due to inability of a small spark to ignite the column.
Maybe there in lies any ignition problems that I heard about.
Glock - I know what you are saying.
Thanks for memo - Interesting point, 3-4x in the same batch, perhaps primer related and not due to inability of a small spark to ignite the column.
Maybe there in lies any ignition problems that I heard about.
Glock - I know what you are saying.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
I have close to 2000 rounds through 2 different rifles and no misfires.
I have close to 2000 rounds through 2 different rifles and no misfires.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HasgunWilltravel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223? </div></div>
There is some debate about whether the small rifle primer will ignite the powder column. Some of the 308 palma brass that Lapua recently manufactured has exhibited these symptoms. It is not something that I have heard frequently with the 6.5x47 (I don't have one, just expounding on the above question).
Below is my reasoning for challenging the merits of the small rifle primer in a case such as a 308...not sure about the 223. If you are not aware of who German Salazar is, do some looking. He is not some random yahoo.
Link
Josh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HasgunWilltravel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223? </div></div>
There is some debate about whether the small rifle primer will ignite the powder column. Some of the 308 palma brass that Lapua recently manufactured has exhibited these symptoms. It is not something that I have heard frequently with the 6.5x47 (I don't have one, just expounding on the above question).
Below is my reasoning for challenging the merits of the small rifle primer in a case such as a 308...not sure about the 223. If you are not aware of who German Salazar is, do some looking. He is not some random yahoo.
Link
Josh
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Over 4000 rounds split between two custom rifles (a Rem 700 action and a Surgeon action) with NO misfires. All Lapua brass (many times reloaded). Probably equal amounts of CCI and Federal primers.
As an aside, numerous Coyotes have met their end via Berger 140 vld hunting bullets. I will use the rifles for deer this year.
Over 4000 rounds split between two custom rifles (a Rem 700 action and a Surgeon action) with NO misfires. All Lapua brass (many times reloaded). Probably equal amounts of CCI and Federal primers.
As an aside, numerous Coyotes have met their end via Berger 140 vld hunting bullets. I will use the rifles for deer this year.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Awesome guys, thanks. So between this and a thread on another forum I started, what I gather is ignition in 6.5/47 w/SLR is rare, and when occurs, attributed to either faulty/defective primers or using a std primer (vs magnum) in sub -10 degree weather.
I knew it was not a major issue, but for a hunting rifle that may well be used in very cold temps, I wanted to be absolutely certain of no misfires.
Pretty much answers my question unless anyone else wants to add anything.
Thanks much to all.
Awesome guys, thanks. So between this and a thread on another forum I started, what I gather is ignition in 6.5/47 w/SLR is rare, and when occurs, attributed to either faulty/defective primers or using a std primer (vs magnum) in sub -10 degree weather.
I knew it was not a major issue, but for a hunting rifle that may well be used in very cold temps, I wanted to be absolutely certain of no misfires.
Pretty much answers my question unless anyone else wants to add anything.
Thanks much to all.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HasgunWilltravel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223? </div></div>
There is some debate about whether the small rifle primer will ignite the powder column. Some of the 308 palma brass that Lapua recently manufactured has exhibited these symptoms. It is not something that I have heard frequently with the 6.5x47 (I don't have one, just expounding on the above question).
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I have been shooting small flash hole 308 Lapua Palma for a year or so already. After about 2000shots, no misfires. Using slow VV N150 powder, case full. Works in wintertime too, atleast sub zero centigrade temps.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HasgunWilltravel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why would you assume this cartridge is more prone to misfires than say a .308 or a .223? </div></div>
There is some debate about whether the small rifle primer will ignite the powder column. Some of the 308 palma brass that Lapua recently manufactured has exhibited these symptoms. It is not something that I have heard frequently with the 6.5x47 (I don't have one, just expounding on the above question).
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I have been shooting small flash hole 308 Lapua Palma for a year or so already. After about 2000shots, no misfires. Using slow VV N150 powder, case full. Works in wintertime too, atleast sub zero centigrade temps.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Quite a few of the 6.5 x 47 shooters have used Wolf SR Magnum primers which are a little oversized and sometimes cause misfires when they are not seated far enough in. I had some early misfires and hangfires that were on the order of a few milliseconds, at that time I was using my trusty Lee handprimer. About 4,000 Wolf primers ago I switched to using a K&M hand primer and have had no misfires with the Wolf's. I recommend the K&M hand primer as you can feel the seating much better than any other primer seating tool I have used.
I have shot the 6.5 x 47 L in all temps here in Minnesota and have had no misfires down to -20 degrees.
Quite a few of the 6.5 x 47 shooters have used Wolf SR Magnum primers which are a little oversized and sometimes cause misfires when they are not seated far enough in. I had some early misfires and hangfires that were on the order of a few milliseconds, at that time I was using my trusty Lee handprimer. About 4,000 Wolf primers ago I switched to using a K&M hand primer and have had no misfires with the Wolf's. I recommend the K&M hand primer as you can feel the seating much better than any other primer seating tool I have used.
I have shot the 6.5 x 47 L in all temps here in Minnesota and have had no misfires down to -20 degrees.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Thanks much sir, good to know, Lee often works well, but I have an RCBS I believe for stubborn situations. Broke a few levers on the Lees w/my thumb - metal fatigue, they always sent me another.
Thanks much sir, good to know, Lee often works well, but I have an RCBS I believe for stubborn situations. Broke a few levers on the Lees w/my thumb - metal fatigue, they always sent me another.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
I shoot the 6.5x47L in one of my prone match rifles and use CCI magnum small rifle primers and have not had one misfire in close to 2K rounds. As for the .308 small primer brass, I was told the reason for misfires in cold weather may also be due to the case capacity and slow powders as mentioned above. Supposedly the upper limit for consistent ignition with small primers is around 36-37grs. of powder. Considering alot of people shooting the 155's are using up to 46 grains of powder I can see why this might happen.
Len
I shoot the 6.5x47L in one of my prone match rifles and use CCI magnum small rifle primers and have not had one misfire in close to 2K rounds. As for the .308 small primer brass, I was told the reason for misfires in cold weather may also be due to the case capacity and slow powders as mentioned above. Supposedly the upper limit for consistent ignition with small primers is around 36-37grs. of powder. Considering alot of people shooting the 155's are using up to 46 grains of powder I can see why this might happen.
Len
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Misfires all the time . . . seems to be related to the fifth shot of my many 5-shot groups. I just don't understand it. </div></div>
Laffin!....Ain't that the truth!
Seriously, I've seen misfire problems with small rifle primers up here in the winter when temps drop down to -20F. Even with .222 Remington case size capacity.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Misfires all the time . . . seems to be related to the fifth shot of my many 5-shot groups. I just don't understand it. </div></div>
Laffin!....Ain't that the truth!
Seriously, I've seen misfire problems with small rifle primers up here in the winter when temps drop down to -20F. Even with .222 Remington case size capacity.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
The 6.5x47L has really proven itself as a competition round: just amazing. However, in cold weather, it's probably not the best choice with a small primer and smaller flash hole size and a 308-sized case.
The 6.5x47L has really proven itself as a competition round: just amazing. However, in cold weather, it's probably not the best choice with a small primer and smaller flash hole size and a 308-sized case.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
I had a number of misfires using a 2004/5 production case of CCI 400 primers in my .454 Casulls.
Bad batch of primers.
CCI was THE WORST to deal with.
What a racket, selling shit that blows up; except when it don't it is the customer's fault, or the case manufacturer or the weapon maker...
CCI promised to replace the brick of primers and later admitted they wouldn't do so. I've never bought any of their crap since and no longer buy RCBS or any other Blount product.
Might look into using magnum primers. I like Rem 7-1/2 for .223 and fire them in sub-zero temps with no problems.
I had a number of misfires using a 2004/5 production case of CCI 400 primers in my .454 Casulls.
Bad batch of primers.
CCI was THE WORST to deal with.
What a racket, selling shit that blows up; except when it don't it is the customer's fault, or the case manufacturer or the weapon maker...
CCI promised to replace the brick of primers and later admitted they wouldn't do so. I've never bought any of their crap since and no longer buy RCBS or any other Blount product.
Might look into using magnum primers. I like Rem 7-1/2 for .223 and fire them in sub-zero temps with no problems.
Re: 6.5x47 Users, anyone experience misfires?
Had the same situation with Federal GMM primers in the 'primer shortage' of the early 90's - kept blowing primers. Wound up throwing out 500-600 of them. Shit happens once-and-a-while when you make billions of something.
Goog luck
Jerry
Had the same situation with Federal GMM primers in the 'primer shortage' of the early 90's - kept blowing primers. Wound up throwing out 500-600 of them. Shit happens once-and-a-while when you make billions of something.
Goog luck
Jerry
