Suppressors 9mm carbine can

Bill the Lurker

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Is there anything I should be aware of when shopping for a suppressor for a Ruger Carbine chambered 9mm?

Is the fact of 16" of barrel an issue in 9mmm?

I am leaning towards a TiRant at the moment.

Thanks,
Bill
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jbuck88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was told that it is tougher to keep ammo subsonic out of a 16" barrel. But never tried it. IDK </div></div>
That is very true, but a suppressor does nothing to "silence" the sonic crack.
 
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We have had good luck using 147gr 9mm loads. Useing any safe load, I don't think you can get them to go super sonic in any length barrel.

The bolt makes more noise than any thing else.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dead-bird</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We have had good luck using 147gr 9mm loads. Useing any safe load, I don't think you can get them to go super sonic in any length barrel.

The bolt makes more noise than any thing else.

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As cool as suppressed full auto is, and as much as I love suppressors, that gun just doesn't look right with a suppressor.
 
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Bill,

As rare as it is that I have to disagree with 762, I will here. You want a can that can forego the active Neilson device, what AAC calls there a.s.a.p. What you want is a can that can swap out to a static (solid, non articulating) mount. Why? Simple, your carbine does not need to have your suppressor cycle every time you pull the trigger, just the opposite.

The Tirant is not FA rated, nor do you need it for your carbine. But a static, swappable, FA rated can could provide you with additional flexibility. I would recommend you start looking for those that can provide it. AWC is currently producing the new Triad in T.H.O.R. It is full auto rated, swappable, no monocores, but rather fully fashioned baffle facings and purge stacks. The envelope is machine out of solid Ti stock (U.S. Bar stock). It might be an ounce or two heavier than an aluminum build out, but titanium weighs more. These are used on pistol and subguns. It is not on their web site, but is in full production and shipping in both .45 and 9mm to services. Yes, you can buy them, but you will need to call them direct and ask. Now I'm not saying just buy it, hear as many makers as you can. There is no finer, quieter, stronger can out there. I shoot a good deal of 9mm and, to date, it is the quiestest 9mm can I've ever heard. It is coming out in their new catalog.






 
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To correct some false info. The AAC T-Rant is full auto rated, it uses the same piston system as the Evolution 9 so the same booster lock that fits the Evolution 9 fits the T-Rant for use on fixed barrel firearms.

The 2011 T-rant 9 silencer disassembles for cleaning which is becomming a popular feature customers are demanding.
 
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Not sure of how well the Ruger silences, the Marlin Camp 9 which is also a straight blow back gun breech opens too quick with the added blow back of a silencer. First I would fire some 147gr or 158gr 9mm ammo through your Ruger to function test it. Would be crap if you put the effort of threading and the rifle did not function.

I have an Evolution 9 in stock in Nebraska if you want to go that route I can sell you a new one or reduce the price on a shop demo. Can not commit on threading the Ruger till I looked it over to see how it takes down and fits into a a lathe.
 
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I shoot 9mm fixed barrel, closed and open bolt in FA allot, no issue with suppression with a well designed, low pressure, STATIC mount can. Straight blow back has been successfully suppressed since WWI.

The Tirant is a high pressure can, I can see nowhere that the company recommends this can for FA use. They may say so on the phone, but that is as official as it gets. A FA rated can should be stated as such as the design parameters are different. Many cans can take an 8 round run, but throw a good number 36 rounds clips through the can and things are different. As a high pressure can, this design may not be the best for blow back operations.
 
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well. can you recomend me a best can for my application:
Ruger PC9 carbine.

Will a TiRant work at all, or is something better out there.

I am ignorant of such things, that's why I'm asking for the help.

Thanks,
Bill
 
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The Trident is full auto rated. I have one and it is a good all around can. I have different thread mounts, 1/2x28, 5/8x24, for mounting on a 300BLK and 9mm carbines. And a couple of LCD's for mounting on handguns.

The Tirant, and Ospray are both quieter on handguns, but they came out after I bought mine. Then watching the videos on the Ospray is has a huge FRP on the whisper/blackout.

You can get a sleeve to lock the piston on the Tirant for use on a carbine, and I would probably go that route if I were to do it again right now.
 
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From the AAC forum on Silencertalk.com

The TiRant is full auto rated. It is assembled like the Evo-9 but has a Ti tube and is larger in diameter so pressures are even lower.


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Abacab wrote:

Incorrect on the full auto part. Read my Ti-Rant vs KAC thread.


Could you post a link to that thread? I'm not having any luck with the search function.

I have a Ti-Rant 9 pending on a Form 4 right now. Was just planning on using it on a Glock 19 and Sig 226, but that would be great if it's FA rated.

Don't have that link, but YES, the Ti-RANT 9 is full auto rated.

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From discussion on the AAC forum at Silencer talk. The Ruger PC9 has a lot of ejection port noise, sometimes a stronger spring or weight added to a bolt/buffer can keep the bolt closed longer to reduce this, also a silencer with more volume and less back pressure can help. Or the chamber could be cut loose at the factory to promote function without jamming and just does not seal well.
 
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Don't laugh, but I am going to try my osprey on my Colt le 9mm carbine. I ordered the piston for it and the replacement part for the fixed barrel. I'm sure it will look funny but I'll let y'all know how it works out.