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a Mauser action and new build?

750SpiritRdr

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i have a interarms mark x .270(please keep reading) that i have had for years now, i picked it up for next to nothing(100.00) and have hunted with it many times. Ok shooter but i hate the hollow feeling camo B&C stock and all camo pencil barrel.
Everyone talks of the Mauser actions and i was wondering of a good starting point. Stock? barrel? is the mark x even worth building off of? Is the mark x a Mauser 98?
i know, i know...alot of ?'s. i just decided to do this tonight.
this will be hunting/500yrd(max) range rifle, heavy rather than light

i just want a little direction guys, i've never attempted this before.
THANKS!!!
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

I too am curious. There is a lot of Mausers on GB and all I am looking for is an action to build on. Only kicker is its a tactical build and there arent a whole lot of stocks that fit that bill.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

Im have been told that building on a Mauser 98 action is not often done because the lock time is slow and a pita to improve.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

Grab the stock for that action off the mcmillan specials page. Order a less expensive but still good barrel blank. I have had great luck with mcgowen and shilen with hunting rifles, there are others. Get it chambered in .270win/280rem/280AI/30-06 and bed it into the stock, add a quality trigger. Presto you will have a very nice hunting rifle. Carefull though you can sink alot off money into a mauser build and never get it back in resale so make sure you want to keep the rifle and it's not a big deal. I don't know if I would ever make one into a tactical rifle but they make a real nice hunting rifle.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

I have seen a mauser action, like yours, rebarreled with a 30 inch straight 1.25" in 6,5x55 sweden in a BR stock and that rifle shot lights out at 600yds in a category F class open match
There is hope I guess.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

The mark X is a great action and little to nothing has to be done to it. Plenty of nice stocks out there. I would rebarrel it and restock it. Or you could sell it to me for a $100
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Re: a Mauser action and new build?

With a Mauser, it is rarely a question of CAN a good rifle be built on an action, it is SHOULD a rifle be built on a Mauser. Usually, the work that must go into a MILSPEC Mauser to get it ready to build makes the exercise unwise. But you have an Interarms (Zastava) commercial Mauser action which already has a scope-friendly bolt handle, no thumb slot for clip loading, a scope friendly safety, pretty decent trigger, and drilled and tapped holes for a scope base.

Get a Superior Shooting Solutions (Tubb) makes a speed lock kit for under $100 for a large ring Mauser that will take care of any lock time issues. A good pre-threaded and short-chambered barrel can be had in most any caliber you want like one of these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=25195/Product/FITTED_BARRELS_FOR_LARGE_RING_MAUSER_98 McMillan occasionally has Mauser stocks in the Specials page as noted above. Joel Russo also inlets his stocks for Mausers.

Were it mine, I would consider shipping it to PacNor and let them true it and fit and chamber one of their barrels in something vintage like 30-06 and drop it into a Joel Russo A3 copy in walnut for a retro looking but functional shooter. Don't think about resale - you'll never got out of it what you put into it.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DMann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">With a Mauser, it is rarely a question of CAN a good rifle be built on an action, it is SHOULD a rifle be built on a Mauser. Usually, the work that must go into a MILSPEC Mauser to get it ready to build makes the exercise unwise. But you have an Interarms (Zastava) commercial Mauser action which already has a scope-friendly bolt handle, no thumb slot for clip loading, a scope friendly safety, pretty decent trigger, and drilled and tapped holes for a scope base.

Get a Superior Shooting Solutions (Tubb) makes a speed lock kit for under $100 for a large ring Mauser that will take care of any lock time issues. A good pre-threaded and short-chambered barrel can be had in most any caliber you want like one of these: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=25195/Product/FITTED_BARRELS_FOR_LARGE_RING_MAUSER_98 McMillan occasionally has Mauser stocks in the Specials page as noted above. Joel Russo also inlets his stocks for Mausers.

Were it mine, I would consider shipping it to PacNor and let them true it and fit and chamber one of their barrels in something vintage like 30-06 and drop it into a Joel Russo A3 copy in walnut for a retro looking but functional shooter. Don't think about resale - you'll never got out of it what you put into it.
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Thank you, that gives me a little more direction
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with building a lights out Mauser. I have had several, and all of them shot lights out.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Good Stock?</span>

McMillian builds stocks with a Mauser inlet.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Good Trigger?</span>

Timney makes an excellent trigger.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Lock Time issues?</span>

As stated above, not that .0002 seconds effects the average shooter. If your shooting at anything other than movers, which, in a hunting situation is far more frequent that in a range gun, if you have good follow through after the trigger pull is a non issue. This can be taken care of with the Tubb kit, as stated above.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">What about that ugly bolt knob (military mausers)</span>

Dakota Bolt know, among dozens of others, or get a jig and heat sink, and bend it yourself.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Bases? How about a 20MOA base?</span>

Several manufactures make them, including EGW, or you can get a blank if it is already tapped to something else, there really was not any standard for 1 peice rings, but you can drill a blank base to fit what ever bolt pattern you have.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Trueing up a Mauser Receiver?</span>

I would say that most Mauser Actions, that are from the pre WWII eara are true work of arts. Back in the day, there were no CNC machines, and lathes to hold .0002 accuracy. These actions were all built by hand, fitted by hand, and were done absolutely correct. Compared to modern assembly line actions, it is my opinion, that craftsmanship smokes the new stuff. This is evident if you have ever looked at timing on new Remington actions/Savage actions the list goes on and on. Actions just are not built this way anymore.

People will question this statement, but look at watches for instance. Some of the greatest craftsmen of all time, and time pieces that they created were magnificent works of art, far before the advent of CNC or other modern equipment. They were all built and fitted and timed by hand by people who handed this knowledge down from father to son. This wasnt just a persons 9-5 back then, it was their craft.

Mausers did get sloppy around WWII when the Germans demanded rush to turn out sticks that when boom with the sole purpose of sending rounds down range. With a little Mauser research, you can determine when these are, generally post 1941 German Mausers and Yugoslovian Mausers of the same time frame. However, any gunsmith that can true a Remington 700 can preform the same tasks on a Mauser, from which Remington borrowed the core design.

The major weakness with old Mausers is the steel from which they were built. Not all Mausers used weak steel, but it is highly reccomended to not build high pressure rounds on them. Research can show what is recommended for mauser builds.

Then we come to the Swedish small ring Mauser. The finest Mausers ever built....PERIOD. Sweden was a neutral country, and never massed produced anything because they needed it or they were going to get their balls handed to them. These folks used the highest quality steel, the best and most talented people, and took immense pride in the rifles their country used to defend themselves. Each on is a master piece, I own several currently, and have had dozens over the years, all shot less than MOA with open sights. I never had the heart to dill and tap one for a scope. Sweden knew what they were doing too, chambering the 6.5x55 in 1896, with a 1/8 twist barrel, they were squared away. I can not tell you how many times I have went into a Gander MT. or the like stores looking for 6.5 bullets, way before the modern 6.5 craze, and being told "We don't carry that foreign stuff", "You should get yourself a good 7MM". I laugh my ass off, then say a prayer for them. 6.5x55 SWEDE is making a huge come back, because the people who know, use it, and shock the hell out of the people who think they know.

I currently have a .243 with a Shillen barrel, this gun was built for the sole purpose of busting wood chucks on the farm, because I happen to get a killer deal on a Pre WWII Brno, and had a Shillen blank. I had a local smith True the action, which he said didn't need it, so he just lapped the lugs and squared the bolt face. I picked up a MCM A2 off the hide, and it is currently getting the inlet done up by 30calsniper. This gun shoots lights out, as good as my 6.5x47 Pierce or my .308 GAP. But it is not built for long range, because of the the slow 1/12 twist, but loves 75gr and 85gr Sierra Match Kings, and I would have no issues or concerns taking a deer out to 600 yards with it.

Bottom metal is the only issue that is not readily available. However, military bottom metal can be modified to run M1A1 mags, as you can find in the gun smithing section here.

A lot of the rhetoric about Mausers don't make good guns is bull shit from people who have read it from people who have posted it who don't know shit from shine and are content reposting garbage that they have read or hear with NO experience, like so much you read around forums these days.

Build your custom on a Mauser. Get a good barrel, have a smith do it who knows what he is doing, and you are not shorting yourself at all.

Get information from the source, not folks who "have heard". There are lots of good Mauser forums out there, and with a little research, you can find quality smiths who specialize in Mausers, and all the components you would need to be on par with any other rifle out there.

If the Mauser sucked so bad, every current modern bolt action rifle would not be based off it.

My .02 worth.
 
Re: a Mauser action and new build?

now thats a post. all good info...now off to find a few mauser forums. i just wanted to make sure the mark x was worth building off on befor i started sinking $$ into it. oh well, it's only money
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THANKS.