Have any of you used 178 or 208gr a max bullets for deer or elk? I'm curious what the expansion, and how effective these were. I know their not recomended for this but I've seen some impressive results from others useing higher velosity(2900-3000fps). Any imput would be appreciated.
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lots of threads on this subject
but the amax got a thinner jacket and hence the bullet grenades and actually ruins a lot of meat...the hornady crowd will steer you to the Vmax, which is a better choice
lots of threads on this subject
but the amax got a thinner jacket and hence the bullet grenades and actually ruins a lot of meat...the hornady crowd will steer you to the Vmax, which is a better choice
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I dont know about the 178/208 but I killed a 200 lb buck this year with a 168 amax over 42g of varget at 200yd,dropped instanly,entered just behind front shoulder and completely distroyed the oppisite one,bullet exited with a fist sized hole.
May be a little to explosive for game.
I dont know about the 178/208 but I killed a 200 lb buck this year with a 168 amax over 42g of varget at 200yd,dropped instanly,entered just behind front shoulder and completely distroyed the oppisite one,bullet exited with a fist sized hole.
May be a little to explosive for game.
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I've used the 168's on deer with good results. I think you'd be ok for deer with either choice. However not sure I'd want to use it on elk, might want something more like the ttsx OR accubond.
I've used the 168's on deer with good results. I think you'd be ok for deer with either choice. However not sure I'd want to use it on elk, might want something more like the ttsx OR accubond.
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There are plenty of people here that have experience with the 168's and 178's on deer and hogs. Personally, I have 2 hogs and 1 deer with 168s, all were drt.
There are plenty of people here that have experience with the 168's and 178's on deer and hogs. Personally, I have 2 hogs and 1 deer with 168s, all were drt.
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The big issue is at extended ranges, you could get them to DRT with a fishing sinker sub 300-400 yds, if you hit them in the boiler room.
The big issue is at extended ranges, you could get them to DRT with a fishing sinker sub 300-400 yds, if you hit them in the boiler room.
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I've spent alot of time with the A-Max. Shot them in many calibers and a big fan becouse I can hunt with the same load/bullet that I shoot matches with.
I was doing a show locally with a Hornady rep there. he said look at there new L.E. site http://www.hornadyle.com/products/more_detail.php?id=72&sID=79&pID=6
Shows penetration performance and recomendations. Good stuff and info on bullets and weights. Presonally the 155 A-max is a bomb on chucks, altmost too violent for deer. I was glad to here the 168's were tougher and the rep says the 178's perform just like the 168's - pretty tough.
Hope it helps
JamieD,
Wolf Precision
I've spent alot of time with the A-Max. Shot them in many calibers and a big fan becouse I can hunt with the same load/bullet that I shoot matches with.
I was doing a show locally with a Hornady rep there. he said look at there new L.E. site http://www.hornadyle.com/products/more_detail.php?id=72&sID=79&pID=6
Shows penetration performance and recomendations. Good stuff and info on bullets and weights. Presonally the 155 A-max is a bomb on chucks, altmost too violent for deer. I was glad to here the 168's were tougher and the rep says the 178's perform just like the 168's - pretty tough.
Hope it helps
JamieD,
Wolf Precision
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Thats all I shoot and hunt with. +1 on the 168amaxes. Cant complain nor can the deer...lol.
Thats all I shoot and hunt with. +1 on the 168amaxes. Cant complain nor can the deer...lol.
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This doe didn't like my 208 A-max from my TRG at 280 yards. Exit was about the size of a golf ball. The feeder was right at 300 yards from our firing position. I recommned the A-max as a good hunting and match bullet combo.
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This doe didn't like my 208 A-max from my TRG at 280 yards. Exit was about the size of a golf ball. The feeder was right at 300 yards from our firing position. I recommned the A-max as a good hunting and match bullet combo.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: muleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have any of you used 178 or 208gr a max bullets for deer or elk? I'm curious what the expansion, and how effective these were. I know their not recomended for this but I've seen some impressive results from others useing higher velosity(2900-3000fps). Any imput would be appreciated. </div></div>
I shot this Buck in the face last year at about 10',with a .284" 162A-Max from a 2700fps launch.
Entry
Exit
Much prefer the 7mm 'Max to the 30's.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: muleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have any of you used 178 or 208gr a max bullets for deer or elk? I'm curious what the expansion, and how effective these were. I know their not recomended for this but I've seen some impressive results from others useing higher velosity(2900-3000fps). Any imput would be appreciated. </div></div>
I shot this Buck in the face last year at about 10',with a .284" 162A-Max from a 2700fps launch.
Entry
Exit
Much prefer the 7mm 'Max to the 30's.
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looks like it got the job done!
looks like it got the job done!
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I run an 224. 80gr amax with "killer" performance. Wouldn't hesitate on recommending them to anyone.
I run an 224. 80gr amax with "killer" performance. Wouldn't hesitate on recommending them to anyone.
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6BR/105 amax, 2850mv, doe at 400 yds, stumbled 20 yds, and down, double lunged, exit golf ball size. Seconds before, a buck dropped at 200 yds, spine shot as I expected the higher speed to blow, and it did, w/in less than 2", all vaporized.
Shot placement........
6BR/105 amax, 2850mv, doe at 400 yds, stumbled 20 yds, and down, double lunged, exit golf ball size. Seconds before, a buck dropped at 200 yds, spine shot as I expected the higher speed to blow, and it did, w/in less than 2", all vaporized.
Shot placement........
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They work great I killed 4 deer over 400yds with 105 amax last season. Got exit wounds on all except one my GF shot at 215yds, he was a few steps and dead.
They work great I killed 4 deer over 400yds with 105 amax last season. Got exit wounds on all except one my GF shot at 215yds, he was a few steps and dead.
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I shot a small buck at about 50 yards this past season with a 75 gr Amax at 2,900 fps. Went through a rib, both lungs, then the rib on the other side and left a 1/2" hole on the other side. Dropped almost immediately.
Although at that range I could have used a pistol or a shotgun.
I shot a small buck at about 50 yards this past season with a 75 gr Amax at 2,900 fps. Went through a rib, both lungs, then the rib on the other side and left a 1/2" hole on the other side. Dropped almost immediately.
Although at that range I could have used a pistol or a shotgun.
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