A New Low by Fake News Against Trump

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Yeah, they're all corrupt, both wanna destroy the country in their own way. They're all what's wrong with the country, the 2 party system in particular. Plus, your hero Reagan signed the GCA, Trump banned bump stocks and shit like a goddamn dictator --Obama actually made it so I can CC on federal parks. I happen to give a fuck what he's done for me lately, uh, that's how we choose who to vote for. Duh.

Geezus Krist, you gotta be the high one here.



I turned off the propaganda a few years ago and I don't organize or supply annotated bibliographies without being paid to do it. You can do your research, disregard it (ignorance is bliss they say) or pretend you know different. Or you can PP $$ and I'll do it for you if you wanna escalate this beyond an internet discussion.

Just do a search. I'm talking about shit coming out of HIS OWN MOUTH. Not words written by or put into his mouth by others. No sir, FACT FUCKING POSITIVE he said this and more than once.

Trump, Biden, out of touch and potentially dangerously mentally handicapped the both of them, not to mention too old to believe they wanna do this to "serve" the nation... Wake me up when you all stop drinking the coolaid. Republicans have your interests at heart every bit as much as the Democrats and neither will EVER rollback laws that the other put in place to gain more power.

How much farther does it have to go for you to realize this "experiment" has failed?

Now there's the America we want --and I'm with you 100%. But there's the America we have and apparently that's where we differ. I don't see stars and stripes. I see shit and piss. And it burns me to no end, I figured it should you too.

BUT I guess it's not good enough for either of you that I vote for the motherfucker, I gotta suck his dick, carry his water and defend the nasty shit that comes out of his mouth too? NOT doing it, I'd vote for Biden first. Now go blow a gasket over that one.
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I think this story is total bull shit. Trump was not my first choice in 2016, I was a Ted Cruse supporter, but I thank God every day that Trump won. No Republican that ran in 16 would have survived what President Trump has , they would have caved in the first year.
That's where I'm at. I voted trump in the primary cause I saw the writing on the wall and didn't want a contested convention. The man has surprised me by the promises he's at least attempted to keep. He was not full of shit like I thought.
 
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I wish Trump would move over to only using Parler. Facebook has already said they ain’t gonna let him declare victory.
This could come down to Trump and Biden both claiming victory, asking for the other to be escorted out
So if Trump ends up in handcuffs or worse, are we ready to get this shit going and start smoke checking wholesale or what? The republic is at stake. If they can get Trump outta there, they will never allow another outsider victory again, and say hello to communism.
They’re already outright threatening us! Saying the only scenario that don’t cause widespread riots is a clear Biden victory. If we can be cowed this easily by a bunch of soy based life form liberals, we deserve whatever comes next.
They already assume EVERY mail in ballot will be for Biden...
 

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    Simple question I'm asking myself: "IF" it's true, will it cause me to reevaluate my view of Trump's fitness to serve as President and Commander in Chief?
    Given all the confirmations, even from Fox News and other Trump-friendly entities, I'm forced to at least "consider" the possibility that this is "not" fake news.
    Just saying "It's false and everyone that considers the possibility that it might be true is a disloyal anti-suburb radical leftie ANTIFA commie socialist douche-bag" ... seems to be "avoidance" of that question, not an "answer" to it.
    The valid answers would seem to be (a) "If it's true I don't care", or (b) "If it's true it changes my mind, or maybe (c) "LALALALALA - I CAN'T HEAR YOU - LALALALALA"
    It feels like I should at least "consider" the possibility that this is true, and decide how I'd feel about it if, over time, the preponderance of the evidence eventually showed it to be "real news".
    I'm just sayin' ...
     

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    Simple question I'm asking myself: "IF" it's true, will it cause me to reevaluate my view of Trump's fitness to serve as President and Commander in Chief?
    Given all the confirmations, even from Fox News and other Trump-friendly entities, I'm forced to at least "consider" the possibility that this is "not" fake news.
    Just saying "It's false and everyone that considers the possibility that it might be true is a disloyal anti-suburb radical leftie ANTIFA commie socialist douche-bag" ... seems to be "avoidance" of that question, not an "answer" to it.
    The valid answers would seem to be (a) "If it's true I don't care", or (b) "If it's true it changes my mind, or maybe (c) "LALALALALA - I CAN'T HEAR YOU - LALALALALA"
    It feels like I should at least "consider" the possibility that this is true, and decide how I'd feel about it if, over time, the preponderance of the evidence eventually showed it to be "real news".
    I'm just sayin' ...

    Sure, its possible but IMO not probable and more than likely embelished and out of context. Hell even war-hawker bolton is on record saying he was there and heard no such thing. And, bolton sure dont have much love for trump.

    Issue is, the political opposition with no proof other than unnamed sources can accuse and demand apologies "if true". If you dont see a problem with that well,...id say thats pretty ignorant.

    How about taking the most logical stance. It isnt true until its proven true with evidence beyond he said she said shit hidden behind anonymous sources?

    Nah, that wouldnt fit the narrative lol...

    Its aways easy to second guess from the outside. Hopefully you have never been accused of something you didnt do...that someone said you did but you cant face the accuser...and if you are, will you still feel the same when people "consider it to be true"? Something tells me the tune would change and in a hurry.

    This is the dems slow process of destroying due process and inacting guilty until innocent. We see it all the time. People ruined and slandered with mere rumors and unsubstantiated claims.
     

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    Sure, its possible but IMO not probable and more than likely embelished and out of context. Hell even war-hawker bolton is on record saying he was there and heard no such thing. And, bolton sure dont have much love for trump.

    Issue is, the political opposition with no proof other than unnamed sources can accuse and demand apologies "if true". If you dont see a problem with that well,...id say thats pretty ignorant.

    How about taking the most logical stance. It isnt true until its proven true with evidence beyond he said she said shit hidden behind anonymous sources?

    Nah, that wouldnt fit the narrative lol...

    Its aways easy to send guess from the outside. Hopefully you have never been accused of something you didnt do...that someone said you did but you cant face the accuser...and if you are, will you still feel the same when people "consider it to be true" something tells me the tune would change and in a hurry.

    This is the dems slow process of destroying due process and inacting guilty until innocent. We see it all the time. People ruined and slandered with mere rumors and unsubstantiated claims.
    Certainly a fair assessment from the other side of this hypothetical perspective. And BTW ... I thank you for your civility.
     

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    Certainly a fair assessment from the other side of this hypothetical perspective. And BTW ... I thank you for your civility.

    Hey absolutely. To me, getting people to consider it could be true was the exact intent. Because at that point the damage is done...with no actual evidence? With no one on record so trump can face the accusers? Cmon man.

    By the way, my opinion is that its not true until its proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. And this statement has nothing to do with a future prediction of whether it will end up true or not.

    Funny "beyond a reasonable doubt" is exactly what the dems want to destroy. Well...not destroy perse, since the ruling class can still play that card...but will be selective on who else is worthy to play it.
     
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    First off I do think if Hillary was elected we would be in a lot worse shape as a country now than if Trump was in. We know the Clintons used the Lincoln Bedroom as a Holiday Inn for big donors. I have the feeling the Oval Office would be open to anyone who wrote a big enough check to the DNC or the Clinton Foundation.

    That being said, Trump has said so many horrible things over the last 5 years, it is hard to believe it is a 'fake news' item when he has said similar things before.
     

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    Hey absolutely. To me, getting people to consider it could be true was the exact intent. Because at that point the damage is done...with no actual evidence? With no one on record so trump can face the accusers? Cmon man.

    By the way, my opinion is that its not true until its proven true beyond a reasonable doubt. And this statement has nothing to do with a future prediction of whether it will end up true or not.

    Funny "beyond a reasonable doubt" is exactly what the dems want to destroy. Well...not destroy perse, since the ruling class can still play that card...but will be selective on who else is worthy to play it.
    True ... for sure. As for me, I'm pretty "data-driven". I'm waiting to see how this all plays out. At some point, either someone credible will go on the record, or they won't. I do feel like Kelly's silence, is actually a data point. If it wasn't true ... at least the son's graveside comment ... you'd think he'd speak up.

    As is my experience with most things ... the truth resides somewhere between the two extremes. Hopefully we'll learn that truth sooner or later.
     

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    Certainly a fair assessment from the other side of this hypothetical perspective. And BTW ... I thank you for your civility.

    One more thing. Its not "the other side" of the perspective. Its the logical perspective based on innocent until proven guilty and afforded the right to face accusers. You know...our foundational principles and all...

    And while I acknowledged that trump has said stuid shit, that in no way equates to the FACT he said these things. See "muh logic" post above for an example in the most simplistic form. I also cannot argue that its simply human nature to see a face in the clouds, even if in the end...its just a cloud. People will by nature draw their own conclusions based on biases or what they perceive to be "true". Remember this?..., "we dont care about the truth, only facts"...this is what we are dealing with.
     
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    Major General (ret) Paul Eaton (@PaulDEaton52) Tweeted:


    Read Jeff Goldberg’s article in The Atlantic. How could anyone support Trump? https://t.co/xqfnklmCBq


    LOL you put that up as a joke right? Have you read this guy's twitter feed? He is a chronic Never Trumper for years of tweets and his feed is nearly as hysterical as Jim Acosta this guy is a clown car parade. Four anonymous sources from one of the most left wing progressive newspapers in America....na nothing smells there....the world of throwing whatever they can on the wall and seeing if it sticks. The fact this nut job supports VoteVets is further proof he is deep inside the anus of the Democrat Party.
     
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    If your buddy keeps borrowing 20$ from you and never repays, how many 'data points' do you need before you figure out your buddy is a mooch and you should stop loaning him money you know you'll never get back? And you know other people have loaned him money without your buddy paying them back too?

    Also Trump claims he surrounds himself with the best. Until they quit or disagree with him and are fired. Then his Twitter feed rolls out a bunch of insults directed at the former staff member. How Trump treated SecDef Mattis was disgraceful.
     
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    Better yet, buddy borrows 20 dollars, says he paid you back but didnt. Or maybe he did, but you cant remember? Which is it? Are there witnesses or maybe a signed napkin that prove one way or another?

    Again, false deduction/assumption based on feelers with no evidence other than the claim itself.

    For the side "grounded in science", the logic skills sure are lacking.

    But hey, want to think he said it, you go be you...

    Some of us will wait to pass judgement.
     
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    If your buddy keeps borrowing 20$ from you and never repays, how many 'data points' do you need before you figure out your buddy is a mooch and you should stop loaning him money you know you'll never get back? And you know other people have loaned him money without your buddy paying them back too?

    Also Trump claims he surrounds himself with the best. Until they quit or disagree with him and are fired. Then his Twitter feed rolls out a bunch of insults directed at the former staff member. How Trump treated SecDef Mattis was disgraceful.
    Well I for one am convinced. Definitely voting Biden now. Hooray ANTIFA! Communism here we come baby!
    Can I volunteer to be one of the guys who lines up all the useful idiots against the wall? We don’t want them getting unruly once we kick out the bad orange man...
    Liberals get the bullet too
     

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    Nice hyperbole.
    Where did I say you should vote for Biden? Please post a link. Please. I'll be here waiting.

    In 2016 there were 2 or 3 candidates for the Republican nomination that I thought would do a way better job as President than Trump would. And still do. I wonder how the Republican Party went from the party of family values to allowing a guy who has repeatedly cheated on all three of his wives to be banner carrier for the party. Or have unethical business deals to enrich his pockets. He has done so many shady deals or creepy behavior over the decades he's been in the public eye that I would not trust him with 20$ or be around any female family member. But I'm supposed to trust him to be a ethical, competent leader of our nation? If there was someone with a serious chance of beating Trump in the Republican Primary this year I would have voted for them. I've tried a few times the last four years to get on the Trump train. But it usually only took 2-3 days before he said, tweeted, or did something that made me cringe and reminded me why I don't have a MAGA hat or bumper sticker.
     

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    Its funny lmao...all those long posts and yet none make this specific claim anymore true than before you started. But, I suspect you already know this but are using it as a vehicle to further non related narratives.

    Dont worry. I get that you WANT it to be true, but alas proof and evidence alludes you.

    Btw, tactics are easy to spot.

    I would try to hold your comrades to the same burden of proof. Or at least try not to let my biases impact my judgement.

    If anything, you have already made up your mind...he said it...happy?
     

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    Still asking for proof I am a commie liberal. Please cite that source again. Or do you plan or throwing more accusations out there hoping to cover your bullshit claims? PROVIDE PROOF! And yes, I am calling you out as a liar OldSalty2. I guess it is easier for you to call people names and bully them into accepting your position than have a decent discussion. Happy?
     

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    Still asking for proof I am a commie liberal. Please cite that source again. Or do you plan or throwing more accusations out there hoping to cover your bullshit claims? PROVIDE PROOF! And yes, I am calling you out as a liar OldSalty2. I guess it is easier for you to call people names and bully them into accepting your position than have a decent discussion. Happy?

    Where did I call you a communist? By using the word comrade?

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    First result from "google", so should suffice...

    But hey I agree, lets stay on topic! 😆
     

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    I think Trump is a cretin. The only vote I have hated making more was to vote for that POS McCain. I don't doubt that Trump could have said these things. That said, there are certain things to consider:

    1. The only factual point from the story, that Trump decided not to go because of his hair, has been pretty conclusively disproven through FOIA material and Bolton. Note that Griffin from Fox "confirmed" this part of the story, which makes her confirmation suspicious. There is a saying "falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus" which basically translates to if you have one falsehood, you can presume the rest is false as well.

    2. Nobody knows if Griffin confirmed with the same source as the original, in which case it is no confirmation at all. Without that knowledge, confirmation is useless. In other words, if I tell two people the same story, the fact that I told it to two people doesn't mean it is confirmed, it means I said it to two people.

    He's still a cretin, and I will vote for him holding my nose in November.
     
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    Nice hyperbole.
    Where did I say you should vote for Biden? Please post a link. Please. I'll be here waiting.

    In 2016 there were 2 or 3 candidates for the Republican nomination that I thought would do a way better job as President than Trump would. And still do. I wonder how the Republican Party went from the party of family values to allowing a guy who has repeatedly cheated on all three of his wives to be banner carrier for the party. Or have unethical business deals to enrich his pockets. He has done so many shady deals or creepy behavior over the decades he's been in the public eye that I would not trust him with 20$ or be around any female family member. But I'm supposed to trust him to be a ethical, competent leader of our nation? If there was someone with a serious chance of beating Trump in the Republican Primary this year I would have voted for them. I've tried a few times the last four years to get on the Trump train. But it usually only took 2-3 days before he said, tweeted, or did something that made me cringe and reminded me why I don't have a MAGA hat or bumper sticker.
    good riddance
     

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    A gift for Biden as he has a new topic to rant about. He was getting sidetracked and was starting to talk about raising taxes. So they had to pull that one sooner than planned.

    Unfortunately he will do with it just like he does with his lie about "Fine People" in Charlottesville.

    I don't see this making a difference. Trump's base are not going to be swayed. Vets know what Trump has done for them in the last four years compared to what previous democratic presidents have done.
     
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    This was at the bottom of the article. They asked for feedback. I say we give them some....



    We want to hear what you think about this article. Submit a letter to the editor or write to letters@theatlantic.com.
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    Jeffrey Goldberg
    is the editor in chief of The Atlantic and a recipient of the National Magazine Award for Reporting. He is the author of Prisoners: A Story of Friendship and Terror.

    just another slimeball
     

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    He's already said this before the election! This is General Bonespurs, 5X World Deferment Champion (or was that Cheney?). He said people who couldn't get out of being drafted were suckers and that his personal vietnam was avoiding STD's during the 70's.

    I don't know if this is true, this latest shit from the mouth of the king of shit talkers, but it's doesn't surprise me. What DOES surprise me however, is that Fox News has also corroborated the same quotes and details. I wasn't expecting that...

    I hate to say it, and I apologise to all who have served living or otherwise, but I'm still voting Trump because the dems are even worse than this orange turd.

    Where the hell's that meteorite anyway...!?
     
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    Why are Republicans seemingly content to play defense? By contrast, when Nancy was busted on camera, she held a press conference, went on offense and said that's all I'm going to say about it. The issue all but went away. Of course the media largely controls the narrative. But in response to what on face value is a nonsense issue, Trump should just dismiss it as just that, and move on. By defending themselves, it just keeps the fake issue alive, which is obviously the goal in the first place, and Dems win every time/
     

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    Once again the DuffleBlog has more to say that many others:
    G-Had writes some hilarious satire I love his articles.

    This one was one of the best:
     
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    Uh, no, I've heard it come out of his mouth myself and on more than one occasion. Then there are all the "multiple" sources. This isn't up for debate, he said it, he owns it, and he said it over and over and over... Basically, losers die for their country and winners continue to pay taxes and do as it's told by the govt. they essentially saved. The guy is a despicable piece of shit and I wouldn't piss down his throat if his guts were on fire.

    Look, the motherfucker ain't no saint. He's whats wrong with this country. Is he better than Biden? Yeah, barely. But you could argue it's all fucked and Biden will only speed up the reckoning so it may be better to vote him in instead.

    Neither one have done shit for me lately. Both have managed to push our country closer to civil war.

    lol nice try shill. go back to reddit and circle jerk over there where you face no push back.
     

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    Everything you post Is way to left of center. When the man that liked your post agrees with you, you could bet you would here cheers if you made the same statement at an antifa rally. Get on the right team. I’m just sayin’.....


    YOu would make a great bootlicker in the ThoughtPolice. You value freedom of thought and expression the same as ANTIFA. You have more in common with them then you realize...

    know he didn’t but who fucking cares if he said it?

    Seriously? Who cares?! Have you served? Are you really indifferent to the deaths of servicemen? You're THAT dismissive...
     
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    ManUtd, if you have to ask if Wade has ever served, you answered your own question. He sits behind his computer and insults anyone who he disagrees with. Calls them Commie pinkos or some BS like that.:rolleyes: Sits there fondling his bargain basement AR, staring at a 'not today AntiFa' poster, dreaming of actually getting off his arse, but the Cheetos dust is just to heavy on his 2big gut.

    Also:

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    Ha! Yes!

    We should watch WWII movies like Dambusters and Guns of Navarone and then crank call The German... 😂
     
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