im wondering what is better overall the aics 2.0 or the mcmillan a4?
stock use would be field and so forth
stock use would be field and so forth
AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
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Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
use the search button please, this topic has been covered 1000 times, its personal preferance, what ever fits you best will serve you better, both are very high quality stocks. MCM stocks will give you more choices in regards to custom options but at the end of the day whatever fits <span style="font-weight: bold">YOU</span> the best is king.
use the search button please, this topic has been covered 1000 times, its personal preferance, what ever fits you best will serve you better, both are very high quality stocks. MCM stocks will give you more choices in regards to custom options but at the end of the day whatever fits <span style="font-weight: bold">YOU</span> the best is king.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Tough choice. But the AICS wins out in my opinion. Here is the advantages the AICS has over McMillan:
Folding stock
Fully adjustable for comb and LOP
Built in reliable mag system
No need to bed
More options for bipods: Harris,Atlas,or AI.
The 5 round magazine sits flush which I like better for unsupported shooting.
Tough choice. But the AICS wins out in my opinion. Here is the advantages the AICS has over McMillan:
Folding stock
Fully adjustable for comb and LOP
Built in reliable mag system
No need to bed
More options for bipods: Harris,Atlas,or AI.
The 5 round magazine sits flush which I like better for unsupported shooting.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
The ONLY thing I don't like about aics is the weight. It's pretty darn hefty!
Jay
The ONLY thing I don't like about aics is the weight. It's pretty darn hefty!
Jay
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Thats what ive been hearing about the AICS, pretty good in all categories. The AICS and the mcmillan in my book go head to head and can make it hard for a shooter tp pick one. I guess the only bad thing is ive never picked up a AICS, but just by looking at them in pictures, it seems as though it would be comfortable.
Thats what ive been hearing about the AICS, pretty good in all categories. The AICS and the mcmillan in my book go head to head and can make it hard for a shooter tp pick one. I guess the only bad thing is ive never picked up a AICS, but just by looking at them in pictures, it seems as though it would be comfortable.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Hmm the manners look pretty nice. Ive heard people talk about them and have pretty good things to say about them.
Hmm the manners look pretty nice. Ive heard people talk about them and have pretty good things to say about them.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmm the manners look pretty nice. Ive heard people talk about them and have pretty good things to say about them. </div></div>I had my heart set on a McMillan A-5, but then had a chance to use the Manner's and it was as good. The real big thing about Manner's is the attention to customers he has, the detail, and your order means something to him. I had some McMillan people rush me and kinda get snobby since I only wanted to order 1 stock and wasn't a huge government contract. Check out this T4A pic thread
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmm the manners look pretty nice. Ive heard people talk about them and have pretty good things to say about them. </div></div>I had my heart set on a McMillan A-5, but then had a chance to use the Manner's and it was as good. The real big thing about Manner's is the attention to customers he has, the detail, and your order means something to him. I had some McMillan people rush me and kinda get snobby since I only wanted to order 1 stock and wasn't a huge government contract. Check out this T4A pic thread
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
I saw the manners stocks, very nice looking, i will give them a call. I wonder what there build times are for the stocks?
I saw the manners stocks, very nice looking, i will give them a call. I wonder what there build times are for the stocks?
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw the manners stocks, very nice looking, i will give them a call. I wonder what there build times are for the stocks? </div></div>Mine is being built, he quoted 10-13 weeks. I don't think that's bad since they take personal care of your stock.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I saw the manners stocks, very nice looking, i will give them a call. I wonder what there build times are for the stocks? </div></div>Mine is being built, he quoted 10-13 weeks. I don't think that's bad since they take personal care of your stock.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Hmm mcmillan was saying 3 to 3.5 months for their stocks, seems manners and mcmillans build time are about the same.
Hmm mcmillan was saying 3 to 3.5 months for their stocks, seems manners and mcmillans build time are about the same.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Well between Manners,Mcmillan and the AICS i will have to seriously look at all 3 really deep.
Well between Manners,Mcmillan and the AICS i will have to seriously look at all 3 really deep.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stryder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tough choice. But the AICS wins out in my opinion. Here is the advantages the AICS has over McMillan:
Folding stock
Fully adjustable for comb and LOP
Built in reliable mag system
No need to bed
More options for bipods: Harris,Atlas,or AI.
The 5 round magazine sits flush which I like better for unsupported shooting. </div></div>
Another point Jacob (Rifles Only)made was zero chance for flex in the AICS chasis. I love my AICS 2.0. But haven't tried a McMillan or Manners but am in the process of deciding on one to put my SPS on.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stryder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tough choice. But the AICS wins out in my opinion. Here is the advantages the AICS has over McMillan:
Folding stock
Fully adjustable for comb and LOP
Built in reliable mag system
No need to bed
More options for bipods: Harris,Atlas,or AI.
The 5 round magazine sits flush which I like better for unsupported shooting. </div></div>
Another point Jacob (Rifles Only)made was zero chance for flex in the AICS chasis. I love my AICS 2.0. But haven't tried a McMillan or Manners but am in the process of deciding on one to put my SPS on.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
The points i like are the following.
AICS is all ready to go out the box. Toss on your action and torque it down and your ready to go in 5 minutes. The quality and so forth are top notch. Wait times are pretty much ZERO since AICS stocks are pretty much always in stock ready to be delivered. Prices for AICS are not bad considering the stock your asking for.
Mcmillan also are built top notch and offer some nice options and add ons to the base model of stock you want. Wait times arent too bad considering what your asking for. And the prices arent too bad either
Manners....from what i know which is little....are built pretty good. Im still looking into them.
The points i like are the following.
AICS is all ready to go out the box. Toss on your action and torque it down and your ready to go in 5 minutes. The quality and so forth are top notch. Wait times are pretty much ZERO since AICS stocks are pretty much always in stock ready to be delivered. Prices for AICS are not bad considering the stock your asking for.
Mcmillan also are built top notch and offer some nice options and add ons to the base model of stock you want. Wait times arent too bad considering what your asking for. And the prices arent too bad either
Manners....from what i know which is little....are built pretty good. Im still looking into them.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
My advice is to find someone near you that can let you get behind rifles with these different stocks. My personal preference in how one works for me can serve as a guideline to you, but some people just "fit" better with one or the other. Some like thumb-hole stocks, some like AR pistol grips, and some like the A4 style feel. It's like buying shoes from a website. It looks great in the pictures and fits someone else, but you won't know how it works for you until you try it on for size. Plus, it's not like one is being issued to you and you have to live with it. It's your choice, so find the one that fits you.
My advice is to find someone near you that can let you get behind rifles with these different stocks. My personal preference in how one works for me can serve as a guideline to you, but some people just "fit" better with one or the other. Some like thumb-hole stocks, some like AR pistol grips, and some like the A4 style feel. It's like buying shoes from a website. It looks great in the pictures and fits someone else, but you won't know how it works for you until you try it on for size. Plus, it's not like one is being issued to you and you have to live with it. It's your choice, so find the one that fits you.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mcmillan also are built top notch and offer some nice options and add ons to the base model of stock you want. <span style="font-weight: bold">Wait times arent too bad considering what your asking for</span>.
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Also, if you go the McMillan route and don't want to wait, deal with JW Precision. John has McMillan product in stock and ships quickly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: M24SWS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mcmillan also are built top notch and offer some nice options and add ons to the base model of stock you want. <span style="font-weight: bold">Wait times arent too bad considering what your asking for</span>.
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Also, if you go the McMillan route and don't want to wait, deal with JW Precision. John has McMillan product in stock and ships quickly.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
WOW the JW precision website does have some nice stuff. Ill give them a call on monday and see if they have any A4's coming in for a short action LEFT hand. I dont know how they get the stocks soo fast.
WOW the JW precision website does have some nice stuff. Ill give them a call on monday and see if they have any A4's coming in for a short action LEFT hand. I dont know how they get the stocks soo fast.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My advice is to find someone near you that can let you get behind rifles with these different stocks. My personal preference in how one works for me can serve as a guideline to you, but some people just "fit" better with one or the other. Some like thumb-hole stocks, some like AR pistol grips, and some like the A4 style feel. It's like buying shoes from a website. It looks great in the pictures and fits someone else, but you won't know how it works for you until you try it on for size. Plus, it's not like one is being issued to you and you have to live with it. It's your choice, so find the one that fits you. </div></div>
That's the same advice I would give when the "which stock is the best" question is asked. Its a blonde vs. brunette question.......answer is they are both worth taking a ride around the block, but which one to you take home to mom?
Kirk R
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My advice is to find someone near you that can let you get behind rifles with these different stocks. My personal preference in how one works for me can serve as a guideline to you, but some people just "fit" better with one or the other. Some like thumb-hole stocks, some like AR pistol grips, and some like the A4 style feel. It's like buying shoes from a website. It looks great in the pictures and fits someone else, but you won't know how it works for you until you try it on for size. Plus, it's not like one is being issued to you and you have to live with it. It's your choice, so find the one that fits you. </div></div>
That's the same advice I would give when the "which stock is the best" question is asked. Its a blonde vs. brunette question.......answer is they are both worth taking a ride around the block, but which one to you take home to mom?
Kirk R
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
This link is for his sale page in the Sniper Hide Post Exchange Forum:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=717263&gonew=1#UNREAD
Email, PM, or post a question in that thread. He'll answer your questions.
This link is for his sale page in the Sniper Hide Post Exchange Forum:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=717263&gonew=1#UNREAD
Email, PM, or post a question in that thread. He'll answer your questions.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
I bought the McMillan LH A5 to shoot tac games here in Sacramento. Then I discovered that many games require more than five rounds during timed events. By the time I paid to have the rifle bedded, bought the magazine kit and paid someone to install it, it would cost more that the AICS. So I just bought the ACIS and I will sell the A5 someday. Both stocks wieght about the same with the Remey 308 varmint action. Jesse
I bought the McMillan LH A5 to shoot tac games here in Sacramento. Then I discovered that many games require more than five rounds during timed events. By the time I paid to have the rifle bedded, bought the magazine kit and paid someone to install it, it would cost more that the AICS. So I just bought the ACIS and I will sell the A5 someday. Both stocks wieght about the same with the Remey 308 varmint action. Jesse
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
JesseBB made the same point I was going to make. When you consider the "all in" cost of the McBros versus the AICS I think the AICS is a better value if you like the thumbhole. One other advantage of the AICS is that generally the availability is a lot better than McBros. MHSA in Denver and their dealers have these in stock and shippable today.
BTW-I am a big fan of McBros and having nothing bad to say about them; they make excellent kit.
JesseBB made the same point I was going to make. When you consider the "all in" cost of the McBros versus the AICS I think the AICS is a better value if you like the thumbhole. One other advantage of the AICS is that generally the availability is a lot better than McBros. MHSA in Denver and their dealers have these in stock and shippable today.
BTW-I am a big fan of McBros and having nothing bad to say about them; they make excellent kit.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
yeah i priced it out a earlier...the mcmillan with everything..to include the bedding and dbm purchase and install it brings it to the same cost as the AICS.
yeah i priced it out a earlier...the mcmillan with everything..to include the bedding and dbm purchase and install it brings it to the same cost as the AICS.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
Well to everyone who posted a response thank you for the help. I will look into the Manners stock since i hadnt really considered them really. I willl also look into the aics and the A4 and see everything i can about them and ill make some calls and see if anyone near me has the stocks im talking about here on this post and ill ask if i could at least hold the gun and the reasons why im asking. But ill get back to you guys once i make the purchase and let everyone know how it turns out.
Well to everyone who posted a response thank you for the help. I will look into the Manners stock since i hadnt really considered them really. I willl also look into the aics and the A4 and see everything i can about them and ill make some calls and see if anyone near me has the stocks im talking about here on this post and ill ask if i could at least hold the gun and the reasons why im asking. But ill get back to you guys once i make the purchase and let everyone know how it turns out.
Re: AICS 2.0 or Mcmillan A4
I have a McMillan A5. Recently an AI owner let me try his rifle. The stock feels COMPLETELY different. When I wrapped my hand around the thumbhole on the AI my trigger finger went a full 2 knuckles into the trigger. Felt really uncomfortable compared to my McMillan which has a very fat vertical grip and naturally puts the meat of my trigger finger tip on the trigger. I was able to adjust and the rifle was a fantastic shooter but for me, repeatability was hindered with that AI stock.
Obviously, no two people's hands are the same. This was just my experience so I'd say definitely get behind as many stocks as you can before deciding.
I have a McMillan A5. Recently an AI owner let me try his rifle. The stock feels COMPLETELY different. When I wrapped my hand around the thumbhole on the AI my trigger finger went a full 2 knuckles into the trigger. Felt really uncomfortable compared to my McMillan which has a very fat vertical grip and naturally puts the meat of my trigger finger tip on the trigger. I was able to adjust and the rifle was a fantastic shooter but for me, repeatability was hindered with that AI stock.
Obviously, no two people's hands are the same. This was just my experience so I'd say definitely get behind as many stocks as you can before deciding.
