I am considering to stock up with one of them (so I don't have the re-caliber my scope). Any comments on which one is preferred? M118LR will cost less
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Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
If i'm not mistaken, M118 is 7.62 whilst FGMM is .308
Something to do with case thickness and chamber pressures, or shoulder length/pitch (maybe im thinking of .223/5.56mm). I'm sure someone will correct me and tell me i'm stupid soon enough
If i'm not mistaken, M118 is 7.62 whilst FGMM is .308
Something to do with case thickness and chamber pressures, or shoulder length/pitch (maybe im thinking of .223/5.56mm). I'm sure someone will correct me and tell me i'm stupid soon enough
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
Only your rifle will tell you what one is perfered. The one it likes more buy a butt load of that.
Only your rifle will tell you what one is perfered. The one it likes more buy a butt load of that.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
IIRC from other discussions, M118LR is not typically on par with FGMM.
IIRC from other discussions, M118LR is not typically on par with FGMM.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
my vote is to roll your own.handloads will put both of these loads to shame in both accuracy and speed.if that's not possible,check black hills 175grn. loading.pretty goog stuff there.FGMM is usually fairly accurate but very slow and m118lr is just garbage.shame they issue this shit to our snipers.i've seen m118lr turn 1/4 minute guns into 1" anda 1/4 guns with velocity all over the place.buy what ever shoots best in your gun if you can't reload.if you want to know more about m118lr ammo,call gary schneider,he builds barrels for the USMC sniper rifles.he'll tell ya how bad it is.
my vote is to roll your own.handloads will put both of these loads to shame in both accuracy and speed.if that's not possible,check black hills 175grn. loading.pretty goog stuff there.FGMM is usually fairly accurate but very slow and m118lr is just garbage.shame they issue this shit to our snipers.i've seen m118lr turn 1/4 minute guns into 1" anda 1/4 guns with velocity all over the place.buy what ever shoots best in your gun if you can't reload.if you want to know more about m118lr ammo,call gary schneider,he builds barrels for the USMC sniper rifles.he'll tell ya how bad it is.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
'99 to '03 M118LR was pretty dang good.
'04 or so the velocity was down and ammo didn't shoot so well out of my rifle.
Really depends on what year you are buying. Not sure I'm ready to throw all the M118LR out.
If you want to stock up on 175 ammo, drop me a PM and I'll get you taken care of.
'99 to '03 M118LR was pretty dang good.
'04 or so the velocity was down and ammo didn't shoot so well out of my rifle.
Really depends on what year you are buying. Not sure I'm ready to throw all the M118LR out.
If you want to stock up on 175 ammo, drop me a PM and I'll get you taken care of.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
Agree although most of mine is a bit older 118lr shoots just fine for me. Holds 1/2 moa all the way out. If I am shooting factory ammo the ga arms 175 match is about the best cheap way to keep good accuracy in bulk for my rifles.
Agree although most of mine is a bit older 118lr shoots just fine for me. Holds 1/2 moa all the way out. If I am shooting factory ammo the ga arms 175 match is about the best cheap way to keep good accuracy in bulk for my rifles.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
FCS is right on target here (no pun intended). Old M118LR was good, afterwards there were problems here and there. There's a reason it's cheaper and being sold as surplus.
For the best value, get with one of the ammo vendors on here and see what they can do for you. You'll get better ammo at a cheaper price than FGMM in the long run.
FCS is right on target here (no pun intended). Old M118LR was good, afterwards there were problems here and there. There's a reason it's cheaper and being sold as surplus.
For the best value, get with one of the ammo vendors on here and see what they can do for you. You'll get better ammo at a cheaper price than FGMM in the long run.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
Anyone has experience on 2008's m118lr? I have a chance to get some at about 80c a pop. Good deal?
Anyone has experience on 2008's m118lr? I have a chance to get some at about 80c a pop. Good deal?
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
That is a good deal on the 2008, as for how it shoots I do not know yet, I have some of it and have not done any testing. I am going to run it through the chorono and see how it compares to my '03 that I am shooting now.
I have found the M118LR does quite well in my M24, it is on par with a friends hand loads most of the time, I used to shoot FGMM back in the '90s and it was good then, have not bought any since.
That is a good deal on the 2008, as for how it shoots I do not know yet, I have some of it and have not done any testing. I am going to run it through the chorono and see how it compares to my '03 that I am shooting now.
I have found the M118LR does quite well in my M24, it is on par with a friends hand loads most of the time, I used to shoot FGMM back in the '90s and it was good then, have not bought any since.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: red6actual</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a good deal on the 2008, as for how it shoots I do not know yet, I have some of it and have not done any testing. I am going to run it through the chorono and see how it compares to my '03 that I am shooting now.
I have found the M118LR does quite well in my M24, it is on par with a friends hand loads most of the time, I used to shoot FGMM back in the '90s and it was good then, have not bought any since.
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Thank you. Keep us informed on your testing results. My 04 shoot as well as FGMM in bolt guns
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: red6actual</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is a good deal on the 2008, as for how it shoots I do not know yet, I have some of it and have not done any testing. I am going to run it through the chorono and see how it compares to my '03 that I am shooting now.
I have found the M118LR does quite well in my M24, it is on par with a friends hand loads most of the time, I used to shoot FGMM back in the '90s and it was good then, have not bought any since.
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Thank you. Keep us informed on your testing results. My 04 shoot as well as FGMM in bolt guns
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
I had some 2010 118LR and it's was 50-70fps faster then any of my 175 FGMM and just as accurate. Sadly the harder military primers were hit and miss in my gun so I sold that lot.
My McCourt loaded ammo splits the difference on velocity but is just as accurate, if not more accurate then both.
My vote is to get the McCourt loaded stuff.
I had some 2010 118LR and it's was 50-70fps faster then any of my 175 FGMM and just as accurate. Sadly the harder military primers were hit and miss in my gun so I sold that lot.
My McCourt loaded ammo splits the difference on velocity but is just as accurate, if not more accurate then both.
My vote is to get the McCourt loaded stuff.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
I think FGMM is more consistent, easier to find, and shoots as well as my best handloads.
Greg
I think FGMM is more consistent, easier to find, and shoots as well as my best handloads.
Greg
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
I wouldn't buy M118LR unless it is significantly cheaper and more accurate in your rifles.
Federal trumps my handloads only for availability (on the road) and convenience. For me time = money. I have more time than money.
I wouldn't buy M118LR unless it is significantly cheaper and more accurate in your rifles.
Federal trumps my handloads only for availability (on the road) and convenience. For me time = money. I have more time than money.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remoah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If i'm not mistaken, M118 is 7.62 whilst FGMM is .308</div></div>
Federal loads both 308 Winchester 175gr FGMM, and 7.62x51mm 175gr FGMM.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Remoah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If i'm not mistaken, M118 is 7.62 whilst FGMM is .308</div></div>
Federal loads both 308 Winchester 175gr FGMM, and 7.62x51mm 175gr FGMM.
Re: Ammo question: M118LR vs FGMM 175
I finaly got to my M118LR Lot testing today, all ammo was tested in 5 round groups out of my factory M24 with ProChrono at 78 feet, 74-76 degrees, 52-58% humidity;
LC03 LC06 LC07 LC08
2594 2569 2599 2624
2614 2624 2604 2624
2640 2604 2640 2588
2594 2594 2635 2594
2559 2609 2588 2609
AVG AVG AVG AVG
2600 2600 2613 2609
I finaly got to my M118LR Lot testing today, all ammo was tested in 5 round groups out of my factory M24 with ProChrono at 78 feet, 74-76 degrees, 52-58% humidity;
LC03 LC06 LC07 LC08
2594 2569 2599 2624
2614 2624 2604 2624
2640 2604 2640 2588
2594 2594 2635 2594
2559 2609 2588 2609
AVG AVG AVG AVG
2600 2600 2613 2609
