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Re: ammo to shoot steel with
ive shot run of the mill mild steel 1/4" thick with .40 S&w 185 gr winchester white box FMJ from around 60 yards with only very small dimples in the steel. i havent shot at any closer ranges yet but maybe that will help.
ive shot run of the mill mild steel 1/4" thick with .40 S&w 185 gr winchester white box FMJ from around 60 yards with only very small dimples in the steel. i havent shot at any closer ranges yet but maybe that will help.
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1/2" thick ar500. I shoot 9mm and 45acp FMJs @ 7-10yds. doesn't do squat to it. 7.62x39 FMJs @ 25yds, leaves a tiny dent the size of the tip of a ball point pen.
As far as riccochets, none at 7yds. The lead just splatters straight down and to the sides. Although I was shooting in a field, I can't say the same if the target was over concrete.
I got my set from Ryan @ BigDogSteel.com. Awesome guy!
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2320188&page=1
1/2" thick ar500. I shoot 9mm and 45acp FMJs @ 7-10yds. doesn't do squat to it. 7.62x39 FMJs @ 25yds, leaves a tiny dent the size of the tip of a ball point pen.
As far as riccochets, none at 7yds. The lead just splatters straight down and to the sides. Although I was shooting in a field, I can't say the same if the target was over concrete.
I got my set from Ryan @ BigDogSteel.com. Awesome guy!
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2320188&page=1
Re: ammo to shoot steel with
I use a 230grn. handload FMJ over I think it's 6 grains of Bullseye, haven't checked the fixed cavity powder measure on my Loadmaster for a while, but I've been using the same lot of powder for a while too.
I use a 230grn. handload FMJ over I think it's 6 grains of Bullseye, haven't checked the fixed cavity powder measure on my Loadmaster for a while, but I've been using the same lot of powder for a while too.
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I use cast lead bullets. Not only for steel but for every thing else pistol wise.
Easy on targets, easy on guns and easy on shooters.
For 45s I use 4.5 grns of Unique pushing 230 cast RN. Never hit a steel target that didn't fall with this mild load. Also works shooting bullseye matches.
I use the same charge for my 38 Spl ICORE rounds and practice with my pocket CC revolver.
I use cast lead bullets. Not only for steel but for every thing else pistol wise.
Easy on targets, easy on guns and easy on shooters.
For 45s I use 4.5 grns of Unique pushing 230 cast RN. Never hit a steel target that didn't fall with this mild load. Also works shooting bullseye matches.
I use the same charge for my 38 Spl ICORE rounds and practice with my pocket CC revolver.
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I've been using 1/4" ar500 targets with .45acp for years, at 7+ yards. All that happens is, the impact crushes the lead and shatters the copper jacket lick glass. It makes a flat spray towards the ground and kicks up a little dirt. A loose hanging target is the best so it absorbs alot of the impact and swings away from the shooter. I have targets that are 18" x 24" and 10" squares and they only show a small dimple at close range.
I've been using 1/4" ar500 targets with .45acp for years, at 7+ yards. All that happens is, the impact crushes the lead and shatters the copper jacket lick glass. It makes a flat spray towards the ground and kicks up a little dirt. A loose hanging target is the best so it absorbs alot of the impact and swings away from the shooter. I have targets that are 18" x 24" and 10" squares and they only show a small dimple at close range.
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the only time I've had spatter make it back to the shooting line was when we used to compete at 10 yards on an indoor range. We also typically had a curtain. Occasionally a jacket might come back.
the only time I've had spatter make it back to the shooting line was when we used to compete at 10 yards on an indoor range. We also typically had a curtain. Occasionally a jacket might come back.
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I shoot lead and make sure the steel target is either a knockdown or the face is angled towards me at the top so the splatter is directed downward. Plated and FMJ handgun rounds seem to be okay with this setup, too (rifle rounds are another story). Thousands of rounds a year shot on steel at cowboy action matches has convinced me that it's pretty safe as long as the steel isn't dimpled or punched through by rifle fire.
I shoot lead and make sure the steel target is either a knockdown or the face is angled towards me at the top so the splatter is directed downward. Plated and FMJ handgun rounds seem to be okay with this setup, too (rifle rounds are another story). Thousands of rounds a year shot on steel at cowboy action matches has convinced me that it's pretty safe as long as the steel isn't dimpled or punched through by rifle fire.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rem308a3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you get any ricochet with the fmj? </div></div>
nope the FMJ's just pancake and drop right infront of the steel. .40 turns into a paper thin silver dollar sized peice of lead.
if your concerned about ricochet then just angle the steel leaning forward maybe 20 degrees. then all shots will bounce into the dirt direct below the target. 10 yards and beyond you should have no issues with rocochet. but always wear eye protection some peices will fly back every now and again. ive never heard of a pistol cartridge ricochet be lethal off of steel shooting FMJ target ammo but i have been hit with slow moving lead chunks more then once. but this is all with pistol cartridges... i have no experience shooting steel close range with high powered rifles... really no point though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rem308a3</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do you get any ricochet with the fmj? </div></div>
nope the FMJ's just pancake and drop right infront of the steel. .40 turns into a paper thin silver dollar sized peice of lead.
if your concerned about ricochet then just angle the steel leaning forward maybe 20 degrees. then all shots will bounce into the dirt direct below the target. 10 yards and beyond you should have no issues with rocochet. but always wear eye protection some peices will fly back every now and again. ive never heard of a pistol cartridge ricochet be lethal off of steel shooting FMJ target ammo but i have been hit with slow moving lead chunks more then once. but this is all with pistol cartridges... i have no experience shooting steel close range with high powered rifles... really no point though.
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I recently saw a young kid get hit with a 9mm ricochet at a local outdoor range. He caught the round in the collarbone area, and it was a big mess.
Please make sure your steel is angled, so it deflects into the dirt
I recently saw a young kid get hit with a 9mm ricochet at a local outdoor range. He caught the round in the collarbone area, and it was a big mess.
Please make sure your steel is angled, so it deflects into the dirt
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In our steel (pistol) matches we're shooting 1/4-inch AR500 at "a minium of seven yards." These were our local <span style="font-style: italic">Speed Steel</span> rules which has now been taken over by USPSA as <span style="font-style: italic">Steel Challenge</span> matches. We're shooting every "pistol caliber" you can think of at it with nary a problem. Everything from 22lr to 9mm, 40 and 45ACP "major" loads as well as "pistol-caliber carbines" with every kind of bullet out there. The steel is "hung loose" one hole at the top of the plate so there is a lot of "give" when it is hit.
In our steel (pistol) matches we're shooting 1/4-inch AR500 at "a minium of seven yards." These were our local <span style="font-style: italic">Speed Steel</span> rules which has now been taken over by USPSA as <span style="font-style: italic">Steel Challenge</span> matches. We're shooting every "pistol caliber" you can think of at it with nary a problem. Everything from 22lr to 9mm, 40 and 45ACP "major" loads as well as "pistol-caliber carbines" with every kind of bullet out there. The steel is "hung loose" one hole at the top of the plate so there is a lot of "give" when it is hit.
