Another reason I want my neighbors armed.

[Gunfighter14e2]

Calling 911 is/was the Vax'ed thing to do.

Kentucky man's plea after wife was mauled to death by pack of dogs

Priscilla Jones, 44, was mauled to death by a roaming pack of wild dogs as she walked through her rural Kentucky neighborhood last week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[wvfarrier]

Damn, helluva way to go

 

[diggler1833]

A lot of people don't believe that packs of feral dogs have this capability, but they are awfully incorrect in that belief.

What an unfortunate situation for this family.

 

[Fx51LP308]

A lot of people don't believe that packs of feral dogs have this capability, but they are awfully incorrect in that belief.

What an unfortunate situation for this family.

Yeah, but you know as well as I that once there's a successful defense against a pack of wild dogs, the animal rights activists will go all a twitter.

 

[EddieNFL]

Yeah, but you know as well as I that once there's a successful defense against a pack of wild dogs, the animal rights activists will go all a twitter.

But you’re still alive.

 

[diggler1833]

Yeah, but you know as well as I that once there's a successful defense against a pack of wild dogs, the animal rights activists will go all a twitter.

I am sure that I have made a few enemies on here over my position that packs of feral dogs should get treated like packs of coyotes. I don't care.

I've had four run up on me before while I was checking game cameras, and they didn't back down until the lead bitch (who growled at me) took a couple 5.56 rounds. I've caught them on cows and newborn calves. I've caught them running cows for fun. I've had them running through my hay barn, trying to catch my barn cats. I've found mauled calves (the worst).

I do not condone cruelty to animals, far from it. However, I'm not ignorant to the trouble that a group of canines can cause either, just for the sport of it usually too.

Ill-behaved canines are weapons, plain and simple.

This poor woman and her family just found that out.

ETA: Where I live, landowners are legally allowed to kill any animal that is harming livestock or poultry - at any time. The Sheriff and game wardens extend that to trespassing animals causing a nuisance too.

 

[W54/XM-388]

So this from the article:

"Sheriff Mike Smith has urged the community to remain vigilant, alleging that Jones is the second person to mauled to death in just four months.

Kentucky State Police investigated a similar death on Sandy Branch Road in May, according to the sheriff."

WTF?

After the first death it was time to arm up and go hunting and stay strapped.
"Remain vigilant"? F*** that, how about a good old fashioned hunting party.

Women are often thinking they don't like guns and don't need them, well dogs and wild animals don't care about your "white female privilege" so best be packing hard.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I am sure that I have made a few enemies on here over my position that packs of feral dogs should get treated like packs of coyotes. I don't care.

I've had four run up on me before while I was checking game cameras, and they didn't back down until the lead bitch (who growled at me) took a couple 5.56 rounds. I've caught them on cows and newborn calves. I've caught them running cows for fun. I've had them running through my hay barn, trying to catch my barn cats. I've found mauled calves (the worst).

I do not condone cruelty to animals, far from it. However, I'm not ignorant to the trouble that a group of canines can cause either, just for the sport of it usually too.

Ill-behaved canines are weapons, plain and simple.

This poor woman and her family just found that out.

ETA: Where I live, landowners are legally allowed to kill any animal that is harming livestock or poultry - at any time. The Sheriff and game wardens extend that to trespassing animals causing a nuisance too.

And now you understand why people did their best to make wolves extinct.

Right up until evil government bastards and stupid overaged hippies started thinking it was so "noble" and great to have the biggest and badest wolves they could find let loose everywhere...

 

[Expert684]

Killed some of our sheep on the farm we had. I had to put a few sheep down, from the attack and burn the carcasses.
Also had a pack roam through our campsite at the old Camp Claiborne site in the middle of the night.
Yep they are out there and very aggressive!

 

[Makinchips208]

That’s a sad story. Time for a slaughter.

When I moved into my house I shot a number of dogs. I tried the diplomatic approach first. But after a dog tried biting my wife, more than once, and then two dogs came after me in my own yard, I declared open season.
Any dog that showed half an ounce of aggression got a bullet and a free ride in my truck.
Someone called the sheriff on me after their dog came after my wife, in the street. sheriff called me and said “which house? I wanna be sure so when I drive by I shoot the right dog.” Lol

“Beware of Dog” sign is just an admission that you know your dog is dangerous, when it steps foot onto public right of way it’s dead.

Friendly dogs I left alone. A couple of them were really cool and would come play with the kids.

Been pretty peaceful here for a number of years.

But packs of dogs are the worst. Pets or wild dogs. they run deer and livestock, and people shoot them or at them whenever they see it. Which is rare.

 

[diggler1833]

So this from the article:

"Sheriff Mike Smith has urged the community to remain vigilant, alleging that Jones is the second person to mauled to death in just four months.

Kentucky State Police investigated a similar death on Sandy Branch Road in May, according to the sheriff."

WTF?

Yep, time for people to start taking precautions. At this point, anyone local who allows themselves to be attacked without carrying a proper means of defense is just ignorant.

*****

Have a local friend who was bow hunting last season. He had a pack come underneath his tree, on his scent. He said they circled the tree at least a half-dozen times looking for him. He now carries a pistol with him each time. He is concerned about his kids though (whole family bow hunts). I carry a pistol regardless.

^ His dad showed me multiple photos of deer that he has found mauled to death and not eaten. That family lives about 10 miles down the road from me. Different packs of dogs... same problems. It is rampant out here.

 

[jbuck88]

I live in a rural area, packs of dogs are very dangerous and with young kids who run around and ride bikes I'm always trying to keep an eye out. Once a few dogs for a pack they can flip the switch. See my dog do it once, while fighting a coyote. Made me take note.

 

[Expert684]

Now that I think about it: two small dogs have been snatch in our neighborhood in the last five years by wild dogs.
They were both caught on home surveillance cams. Lots of woods and cane fields around the house.

 

[Emerson0311]

Calling 911 is/was the Vax'ed thing to do.

Kentucky man's plea after wife was mauled to death by pack of dogs

Priscilla Jones, 44, was mauled to death by a roaming pack of wild dogs as she walked through her rural Kentucky neighborhood last week.

www.dailymail.co.uk

2nd recent death by mauling in the area. LEO leadership needs to brief the crew, free running dogs are immediately shot on sight. Any owner that cares will restrain their animals. Simple solution. Anyone that responds with gunfire at LEOs gets shot too. It will give them a break from arresting old people and speeders and actually help their community.

 

[79steeler]

When my wife walks the dogs by herself I make her take bear spray.

 

[Glowworm]

Last Saturday we had a black lab and a shepherd kill a few of our chickens. They ran off before I could get out and resolve the issue. No collars or tags. Heard they paid another neighbor a visit a couple days later.

 

[Makinchips208]

the state of Idaho, and Idaho county in particular, has next to no laws in regard to dogs.
For example, I could shoot someone’s dog, on their own property, and it isn’t a crime as long as city limits or such isn’t an issue.
If the owner got upset then civil, small claims court would be their only recourse.

Maybe check your local laws and formulate a plan of action.

Edit to add: this could be malicious injury to property in Idaho.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

What a tragic story! I am a firm believer that stray dogs are going to revert to the latent wild nature. When they do they must be killed, and hopefully before they kill an innocent person that is minding their own business. Just a couple weeks ago I caught my neighbors little ankle biters chasing my sheep with lambs. Only shot one of the two cause the other one ran away. The other took a dirt nap and a ride in a feed sack. Sorry, dog lovers, but I have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to dogs.

 

[918v]

the state of Idaho, and Idaho county in particular, has next to no laws in regard to dogs.
For example, I could shoot someone’s dog, on their own property, and it isn’t a crime as long as city limits or such isn’t an issue.
If the owner got upset then civil, small claims court would be their only recourse.

Maybe check your local laws and formulate a plan of action.

I’m pretty sure that would constitute vandalism

 

[DocRDS]

This happens in Dallas.

in URBAN Dallas.

TMYK.....

 

[918v]

That’s cuz it’s run by DEI retards

 

[W54/XM-388]

This happens in Dallas.

in URBAN Dallas.

TMYK.....

Urban Dallas has Ghetto Land sharks.

 

[bmash]

Illegal in Mississippi to kill a dog unless self defense or attaching your animals. (I read but don’t reminder details.) you are supose to call the sheriffs dept. This in the Jackson area and is the least of their concern. (National guard should be in Jackson!)
Dog dumping is a big problem in the rural areas. If friendly they go to pound. You see a few with a deer trapped in a creek you just leave them alone - yeah, right!

 

[Makinchips208]

I’m pretty sure that would constitute vandalism

No, but yeah.
Not vandalism, but there have been people charged with malicious injury to property for that very thing.

Usually in southern Idaho where more liberals run the show.

I should have prefaced that with it being any case where the dog has been aggressive towards people.

It happens here. Someone killed the neighbors dog, I didn’t do it. And the guy tried calling the police, but the police didn’t even hardly give him the time of day, let alone try and prove who killed the dog.

So as long as the dog is harassing people or livestock it’s dead meat.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

I’m pretty sure that would constitute vandalism

Any person, who, after complaint has been made by any person to the sheriff, who shall serve a copy of said notice upon such person complained of, willfully or negligently permits any dog owned or possessed or harbored by him to be, or run, at large without a competent and responsible attendant or master, within the limits of any city, town, or village or in the vicinity of any farm, pasture, ranch, dwelling house, or cultivated lands of another, or who willfully or negligently fails, neglects or refuses to keep any such dog securely confined within the limits of his own premises when not under the immediate care and control of a competent and responsible attendant or master, shall be guilty of an infraction punishable as provided in section 18-113A, Idaho Code.

 

[918v]

Any person, who, after complaint has been made by any person to the sheriff, who shall serve a copy of said notice upon such person complained of, willfully or negligently permits any dog owned or possessed or harbored by him to be, or run, at large without a competent and responsible attendant or master, within the limits of any city, town, or village or in the vicinity of any farm, pasture, ranch, dwelling house, or cultivated lands of another, or who willfully or negligently fails, neglects or refuses to keep any such dog securely confined within the limits of his own premises when not under the immediate care and control of a competent and responsible attendant or master, shall be guilty of an infraction punishable as provided in section 18-113A, Idaho Code.

That doesn’t give a person the right to shoot the dog.

 

[918v]

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch70/sect18-7001/

 

[918v]

 

[918v]

Apparently it is cruel in Idaho to shoot a dog who is not attacking people or livestock.

 

[Makinchips208]

Well don’t follow me for legal advice. lol.
I guess don’t shoot dogs in broad daylight. Haha!

 

[John L]

Livingston County man, 91, woman, 56, killed by dogs

State Police say up to five dogs were believed to have been involved in two attacks that killed an elderly man in his front yard and a woman passerby Thursday afternoon in rural Livingston County's Iosco Township, west of Howell....

www.mlive.com

I heard about this one though it is from 2007

 

[david walter]

I have a small farm south of Hattiesburg,MS. I walk my two dogs around the property at least once a day.

I’m always armed when outside.

We have cameras, and see dogs on the property occasionally when we are not home. And I occasionally run into the neighbor’s dogs. But for the most part, I’m intolerant of loose dogs around the farm, and not afraid to shoot near them to warn them off.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

That doesn’t give a person the right to shoot the dog.

It actually does. Now I don’t condone shooting a dog just because it’s not in a fence or on a leash, but legally speaking precedent is there.

https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch70/sect18-7001/

That doesn’t say anything about shooting someone’s dog.

 

[918v]

It actually does. Now I don’t condone shooting a dog just because it’s not in a fence or on a leash, but legally speaking precedent is there.

Where does it allow that?

 

[918v]

That doesn’t say anything about shooting someone’s dog.

Your right. It says it’s a crime to destroy someone’s property.

 

[Franko]

I know it's a shitty thing to say but all of us need be prepared to protect ourselves, so we don't end up like this poor woman.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

Where does it allow that?

The whole statute is about dogs at large. The dogs must be on a leash or in a fence. If the persons yard is fenced the dog is contained. Simple. If it’s not fenced the dog could belong to anyone and it could run out on the sidewalk and attack anyone. It’s happened with people and the courts have found that those people were innocent of wrong doing.

 

[Im2bent]

Yep, time for people to start taking precautions. At this point, anyone local who allows themselves to be attacked without carrying a proper means of defense is just ignorant.

*****

Have a local friend who was bow hunting last season. He had a pack come underneath his tree, on his scent. He said they circled the tree at least a half-dozen times looking for him. He now carries a pistol with him each time. He is concerned about his kids though (whole family bow hunts). I carry a pistol regardless.

^ His dad showed me multiple photos of deer that he has found mauled to death and not eaten. That family lives about 10 miles down the road from me. Different packs of dogs... same problems. It is rampant out here.

Why didn't he go to town on them? Pretty sure an arrow will kill a dog.

 

[Fx51LP308]

Your right. It says it’s a crime to destroy someone’s property.

Precisely the issue in FL. A household pet or farm animal is considered "Property" and, therefore, they do not enjoy the protections of "deadly force" laws as do "persons." Hopefully, we can get that changed, shortly (i.e. allow household/farm pets to be treated as "persons" for DGU purposes, if not a full treatment of DGU for most property crimes), similar to Texas.

 

[918v]

The whole statute is about dogs at large. The dogs must be on a leash or in a fence. If the persons yard is fenced the dog is contained. Simple. If it’s not fenced the dog could belong to anyone and it could run out on the sidewalk and attack anyone. It’s happened with people and the courts have found that those people were innocent of wrong doing.

I understand your thinking, but that’s not a good legal strategy to avoid jail.

 

[Camelfilter]

I know it's a shitty thing to say but all of us need be prepared to protect ourselves, so we don't end up like this poor woman.

Why would be a shitty thing to say? Everyone should be armed, all the time.

A tool is useless if you need now it & it's locked in the house.

 

[hunterx77]

Nothing better than you and your neighbor have same mindset about firearms. Self-defense is highly important.

 

[calling4life]

So you're saying you understand why law enforcement will shoot loose dogs when performing their job...

 

[diggler1833]

So you're saying you understand why law enforcement will shoot loose dogs when performing their job...

I'd like to differentiate right now the difference between killing a loose and aggressive dog on MY property... and randomly going onto someone else's property (without warning) and shooting their dog inside their own yard or home.

Now, if LEO are responding to a call on a loose dog that is aggressive - please shoot away and help the community.

The latter is public assistance. The former is an abuse of public trust. This is what prevents me from giving blanket approval to the use of force against animals by departments and agencies.

 

[LuckyLuke80]

I understand your thinking, but that’s not a good legal strategy to avoid jail.

True. As I said before, I don’t just hold with killing someone’s dog just because it’s not following the letter of the law. I’m just saying, as is Makinchips208 that in Idaho there is a pot of leeway regarding dealing with unrestrained dogs.