Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
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Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
I had the VTR and I was not a huge fan. Youll save yourself a lot of money by going with the Tactical also, and youll gain the heavy barrel.
In fact, I replaced my VTR with the SPS Tactical haha So that would be my recommendation
EDIT: Sorry really didnt answer any questions did I? haha
The stock on the VTR is the basic Remington Injected Molded Plastic Stock, only its OD Green (oooooo lol). Barrel is the new "Triangle" Barrel, and it has an integrated muzzle brake. The barrel is 22", but technically the brake is the last 2" so its a 20".
The Tactical has the Houge Rubber Stock and the SuperCell Recoil pad, still a cheap stock, but an upgrade I suppose. It has a 20" heavy barrel and thats about it haha
I paid $750 for the VTR and $580 for the Tactical (both of mine in .223 also). If I had to do it all again, I would skip the VTR totally. Not worth the extra at all IMHO. You are paying for their fancy new barrel design and the cruddy brake, which on the .223 not really needed anyways.
I had the VTR and I was not a huge fan. Youll save yourself a lot of money by going with the Tactical also, and youll gain the heavy barrel.
In fact, I replaced my VTR with the SPS Tactical haha So that would be my recommendation
EDIT: Sorry really didnt answer any questions did I? haha
The stock on the VTR is the basic Remington Injected Molded Plastic Stock, only its OD Green (oooooo lol). Barrel is the new "Triangle" Barrel, and it has an integrated muzzle brake. The barrel is 22", but technically the brake is the last 2" so its a 20".
The Tactical has the Houge Rubber Stock and the SuperCell Recoil pad, still a cheap stock, but an upgrade I suppose. It has a 20" heavy barrel and thats about it haha
I paid $750 for the VTR and $580 for the Tactical (both of mine in .223 also). If I had to do it all again, I would skip the VTR totally. Not worth the extra at all IMHO. You are paying for their fancy new barrel design and the cruddy brake, which on the .223 not really needed anyways.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
Have a .223 sps tac. Got it because of the faster twist. Its not too bad. Its not a very good stock, but I have seen much worse on rifles in this range. A friend has one in a manners w/minichassis and its very accurate for a stock rifle. So much so that I was planning on having one built but after his, I went the same direction.
In my oppinion no, not only is it not worth the extra, but its a less desirable configuration in general.
Have a .223 sps tac. Got it because of the faster twist. Its not too bad. Its not a very good stock, but I have seen much worse on rifles in this range. A friend has one in a manners w/minichassis and its very accurate for a stock rifle. So much so that I was planning on having one built but after his, I went the same direction.
In my oppinion no, not only is it not worth the extra, but its a less desirable configuration in general.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have a .223 sps tac. Got it because of the faster twist. Its not too bad. Its not a very good stock, but I have seen much worse on rifles in this range. A friend has one in a manners w/minichassis and its very accurate for a stock rifle. So much so that I was planning on having one built but after his, I went the same direction. </div></div>
Very true. But then again if you are serious about shooting and you buy a Remington rifle you probably have plans to ditch their stock anyways haha
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have a .223 sps tac. Got it because of the faster twist. Its not too bad. Its not a very good stock, but I have seen much worse on rifles in this range. A friend has one in a manners w/minichassis and its very accurate for a stock rifle. So much so that I was planning on having one built but after his, I went the same direction. </div></div>
Very true. But then again if you are serious about shooting and you buy a Remington rifle you probably have plans to ditch their stock anyways haha
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
thanks guys, that's the info I was looking for.
The rifle will be going in an AICS so the stock isn't an issue. I figured the VTR would be a waste of coin and no real gain in quality, but decided I'd ask first.
thanks guys, that's the info I was looking for.
The rifle will be going in an AICS so the stock isn't an issue. I figured the VTR would be a waste of coin and no real gain in quality, but decided I'd ask first.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
if you plan to replace the stock, get the sps-v. the varmint comes with the same stock as the vtr, only in black, but costs less than the tactical i believe. i think everything else is the same between the tactical and varmint though.
if you plan to replace the stock, get the sps-v. the varmint comes with the same stock as the vtr, only in black, but costs less than the tactical i believe. i think everything else is the same between the tactical and varmint though.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists.
The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captramrod01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VTR has the unusual triangle barrel... </div></div>
Nasty^^ barrel..
Go sps tactical or 700P. For target/tactical shooting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captramrod01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">VTR has the unusual triangle barrel... </div></div>
Nasty^^ barrel..
Go sps tactical or 700P. For target/tactical shooting
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists. </div></div>
+1 again for this very intelligent Hide Member. Thats the reason I went with the tactical, the twist in the varmint was not as versatile as the tactical.
The price different (at least at my shop) was about $30 between the Tactical and Varmint.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists. </div></div>
+1 again for this very intelligent Hide Member. Thats the reason I went with the tactical, the twist in the varmint was not as versatile as the tactical.
The price different (at least at my shop) was about $30 between the Tactical and Varmint.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JonnyHawes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists. </div></div>
+1 again for this very intelligent Hide Member. Thats the reason I went with the tactical, the twist in the varmint was not as versatile as the tactical.
The price different (at least at my shop) was about $30 between the Tactical and Varmint. </div></div>
remington lists the twist on both as 12" in a .308...
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-vtr.aspx
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JonnyHawes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nly205</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The varmit is a 12" twist. You don't want that one if you plan on shooting heavier bullets. The other two options listed are 9" twists. </div></div>
+1 again for this very intelligent Hide Member. Thats the reason I went with the tactical, the twist in the varmint was not as versatile as the tactical.
The price different (at least at my shop) was about $30 between the Tactical and Varmint. </div></div>
remington lists the twist on both as 12" in a .308...
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-vtr.aspx
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
wait i see the OP is wanting a .223. the tactical and vtr are 9" twists and the varmint is 12" twist in .223.
wait i see the OP is wanting a .223. the tactical and vtr are 9" twists and the varmint is 12" twist in .223.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
With the heavy barrel I think that is a wise decision. Thats a lot of extra weight to lug around.
With the heavy barrel I think that is a wise decision. Thats a lot of extra weight to lug around.
Re: Any difference - SPS tactical and VTR
I had a SPS varmint in .223 (1/12 twist). It was a tackdriover with 55 grain bullets. Could barely stay on paper at 200 yards with fgmm 69 grain cartridges. I "upgraded" to the .223 700P. Good shooter, but not the laser like the varmint with the right lad. Still trying to figure out what it likes.
I had a SPS varmint in .223 (1/12 twist). It was a tackdriover with 55 grain bullets. Could barely stay on paper at 200 yards with fgmm 69 grain cartridges. I "upgraded" to the .223 700P. Good shooter, but not the laser like the varmint with the right lad. Still trying to figure out what it likes.
